MILA and the future of Theano

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Post by shagunsodhani » Thu, Sep 28, 2017, 8:31 PM UTC

MILA and the future of Theano
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Re: MILA and the future of Theano

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Post by pesenti » Thu, Sep 28, 2017, 8:43 PM UTC

Reminds me of Chrome. Lots of competing alternatives. Google comes late yet still manage to take over the market organically very quickly by producing a superior and more robust alternative.

Re: MILA and the future of Theano

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Post by r3bl » Thu, Sep 28, 2017, 8:46 PM UTC

pesenti wrote: post #2

Reminds me of Chrome. Lots of competing alternatives. Google comes late yet still manage to take over the market organically very quickly by producing a superior and more robust alternative.

How does a ML Python library that's shutting down remind you of Chrome?

Re: MILA and the future of Theano

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Post by nohat » Thu, Sep 28, 2017, 8:46 PM UTC

I'm actually nostalgic despite not using Theano for all that long. Theano really was groundbreaking and excellent, though, like many, I've moved on. Thanks to the developers!

Re: MILA and the future of Theano

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Post by sneak » Thu, Sep 28, 2017, 8:47 PM UTC

r3bl wrote: post #3

pesenti wrote: post #2

Reminds me of Chrome. Lots of competing alternatives. Google comes late yet still manage to take over the market organically very quickly by producing a superior and more robust alternative.

How does a ML Python library that's shutting down remind you of Chrome?

I think s/he meant (other browsers) : chrome :: theano : tensorflow.

Re: MILA and the future of Theano

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Post by jsweojtj » Thu, Sep 28, 2017, 8:51 PM UTC

I'm curious what will happen with PyMC... incorporate another library? Is there an easily swappable library that does what Theano does?

Re: MILA and the future of Theano

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Post by pesenti » Thu, Sep 28, 2017, 8:55 PM UTC

sneak wrote: post #5

r3bl wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does a ML Python library that's shutting down remind you of Chrome?

I think s/he meant (other browsers) : chrome :: theano : tensorflow.

Correct. When Tensorflow came out, it seemed that there was already too many good alternatives (Theano, Caffe, Torch). When Chrome came out, Firefox, Safari and the latest version of IE also seemed decent options.

Re: MILA and the future of Theano

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Post by make3 » Thu, Sep 28, 2017, 8:56 PM UTC

jsweojtj wrote: post #6

I'm curious what will happen with PyMC... incorporate another library? Is there an easily swappable library that does what Theano does?

Tensorflow does everything Theano does, but with the backing of the big G. That's basically why Theano is being sunsetted.

Re: MILA and the future of Theano

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Post by 2bitencryption » Thu, Sep 28, 2017, 8:58 PM UTC

pesenti wrote: post #7

sneak wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think s/he meant (other browsers) : chrome :: theano : tensorflow.

Correct. When Tensorflow came out, it seemed that there was already too many good alternatives (Theano, Caffe, Torch). When Chrome came out, Firefox, Safari and the latest version of IE also seemed decent options.

Chrome was so out of left field.

A desktop browser? Made by Google?! In an environment where people have celebratory launch parties for Firefox??

Of course, the business goals made sense, but I don't think anyone guessed it would overtake the market share so effortlessly.

Re: MILA and the future of Theano

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Post by sammorrowdrums » Thu, Sep 28, 2017, 8:58 PM UTC

jsweojtj wrote: post #6

I'm curious what will happen with PyMC... incorporate another library? Is there an easily swappable library that does what Theano does?

Keras is pretty cool and can already use Theano and Tensorflow as a backend.