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How Emotional Labor is Dragging Down Gender Equality

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Re: How Emotional Labor is Dragging Down Gender Equality

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This article is about weak men, men who are too lazy and slothful to shoulder responsibilities like running the household finances. Such men are more like children, doing the minimal amount possible, so lacking in initiative and organization that they are unable to even hire a cleaning service. Saying this is about "understanding" "emotional labor" is wrong because it lets weak, child-like men off the hook too easily…

I want to say that I partly agree with you, but partly that I want to enhance what you've said a bit. I think stating it in terms of weakness is something that will help some men understand where they need to bring up their game. I know that I need to bring up my game in this area, and hearing you say it like that is a goad to me to do better. So on that front, I agree with you, and I thank you for stating this in a way that's motivating to me.

Where I'm not in total agreement is just the example you picked. I would say that "household finances" has often historically been "men's work," especially when you think about investing and retirement planning. I don't want the author's other examples to get lost here. Cleaning and hair braiding were much closer to the heart of the things that I myself have been too "weak and ineffectual" to accomplish, in your words. When I think about how I could make my wife's life better, these types of things, not the finances, seem like the right place for me to start looking. Obviously, in every couple, there are going to be different things, but I'd guess in most cases this, not finances, is closer to the heart of where things are off.

Re: How Emotional Labor is Dragging Down Gender Equality

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> It is difficult to model an egalitarian household for my children when it is clear that I am the household manager, tasked with delegating any and all household responsibilities, or taking on the full load myself. I can feel my sons and daughter watching our dynamic all the time, gleaning the roles for themselves as they grow older.

This part struck a chord with me.

Re: How Emotional Labor is Dragging Down Gender Equality

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I'm not sure I buy this. In my experience at least, it all comes down to standards — it sounds like this woman has higher standards for what constitutes a "running household", and gets frustrated when her husband doesn't share those standards. It sounds like he would be content with boxes on the floor, dirty bathrooms, etc. When she asks him to raise the house to her standard, she is asking him to adopt her perspecti…

Why isn't the solution for the man to compromise on his expectations?

The question goes both ways. If their mutual goal is living together, that is.

Re: How Emotional Labor is Dragging Down Gender Equality

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Here's some advice for people of all genders:

Learn to make decisions immediately and quickly.

By laboring over a decision for hours or days, you can unintentionally turn a trivial task into a heavy one. By making decisions quickly you save yourself all the extra emotional and mental labor.

Sure you will make mistakes, especially as you are learning to do this. But you will get better at it with practice. It is a skill worth pursuing.

I understand there are some decisions that should not be made quickly. Learn to recognize those decisions and create a system for yourself for processing those in a reasonable amount of time. For me, choosing which housecleaning service to hire is not a decision that should be labored over.

Re: How Emotional Labor is Dragging Down Gender Equality

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This article is about weak men, men who are too lazy and slothful to shoulder responsibilities like running the household finances. Such men are more like children, doing the minimal amount possible, so lacking in initiative and organization that they are unable to even hire a cleaning service. Saying this is about "understanding" "emotional labor" is wrong because it lets weak, child-like men off the hook too easily…

I don't think this is an accurate characterization of the article. It is technically accurate that the male in this article did strike me as lazy in his reluctance to call around when hiring a cleaning service. But I think it's an unfair leap to (1) categorize him as "weak, child-like" and (2) dismiss the article as a whole based on this categorization.

The main theme of the article, that managing the household requires a significant amount of work and that this work often goes not only unappreciated but that this lack of appreciation is both acceptable and expected strikes me as much more important. In particular, her husband was aware of the hassle involved in properly hiring a cleaning service and that's why he chose to avoid it. On some level we are all aware of the work that needs to be done but it is easy to forget that it happens.

Towards the end of the article, there are examples that I found interesting: when she brushes the daughter's hair, it's no big deal but when her husband does it he expects praise. When the son tidies his room, he expects acknowledgement but the daughter performs the same task as a matter of course.

In my own household, my partner and I strive for an even split in these duties. I have made numerous, painfully long calls to our insurance company to sort out bills and I did call around for quotes when we put up a fence around a portion of our yard. Still, it was painful for me to admit, I could see some of myself in the author's partner. In particular:

> My husband, despite his good nature and admirable intentions, still responds to criticism in a very patriarchal way.

And when the author talks about trying to explain this work and their feeling that it is unacknowledged.

> ...he would take it as me saying, “Look at everything I’m doing that you’re not. You’re a bad person for ignoring me and not pulling your weight.”

I often find myself getting defensive, often without a clear idea of why I am feeling attacked or unappreciated. I think, often, it boils down to feeling like I'm being accused of something.

Lastly, the idea that this reaction was something I may have learned and internalized at an early age is also interesting and worth thinking about. I do think there's a tendency to think that gender roles are a thing of the past, and many ways these roles express themselves is subtle.

Re: How Emotional Labor is Dragging Down Gender Equality

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post #13

I'm not sure I buy this. In my experience at least, it all comes down to standards — it sounds like this woman has higher standards for what constitutes a "running household", and gets frustrated when her husband doesn't share those standards. It sounds like he would be content with boxes on the floor, dirty bathrooms, etc. When she asks him to raise the house to her standard, she is asking him to adopt her perspecti…

Why isn't the solution for the man to compromise on his expectations? The question goes both ways. If their mutual goal is living together, that is.

Compromise does indeed go both ways. I'm not seeing that here though. At no point does the woman say "well, I guess we just don't do that thing in our house." (Obviously when children come into the equation, the man's not knowing the pediatrician's phone number is true learned helplessness and laziness, rather than a difference in standards, because presumably both parties enjoy having a healthy child).

I agree that the role of woman-as-manager is encouraged by societal expectations, but when it's this distressing, she needs to let go of some standards rather than piling them on to her emotional plate. You can't marry someone with different standards of cleanliness and expect yours to prevail — the only fair expectation is to land somewhere in the middle.

Re: How Emotional Labor is Dragging Down Gender Equality

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Here's some advice for people of all genders: Learn to make decisions immediately and quickly. By laboring over a decision for hours or days, you can unintentionally turn a trivial task into a heavy one. By making decisions quickly you save yourself all the extra emotional and mental labor. Sure you will make mistakes, especially as you are learning to do this. But you will get better at it with practice. It is a ski…

> not a decision that should be labored over.

Getting the right service is obviously important to her. But that doesn't mean the decision should be labored over -- the cost of a wrong decision isn't high; if you don't like the one you hired, just try another one.

Re: How Emotional Labor is Dragging Down Gender Equality

#18

Here's some advice for people of all genders: Learn to make decisions immediately and quickly. By laboring over a decision for hours or days, you can unintentionally turn a trivial task into a heavy one. By making decisions quickly you save yourself all the extra emotional and mental labor. Sure you will make mistakes, especially as you are learning to do this. But you will get better at it with practice. It is a ski…

I agree that this is an important skill to cultivate, as well as the ability to sum-up approximate costs accurately and quickly. That said, I do think that when we are looking at adding a regular, recurring cost to our budget we would be well advantaged by doing the requisite research. In the case of a cleaning service, it's possible (perhaps even preferred) that they'll be performing this service when no one is home. In my own experience, I have found a shockingly wide variety of price points when looking for such a service.

My own rule of thumb is to get three estimates, hopefully at least one from a company or service that was recommended by someone I know personally.

Re: How Emotional Labor is Dragging Down Gender Equality

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Long ago, I heard someone remark, "some women will marry a man, and immediately try to change him into something that he is not and never was. It never works, and they both end up frustrated and miserable."

In the ensuing decades, I've watched that scenario play out many times, with both genders in both directions. (But mostly it was the woman trying to change the man.)

Re: How Emotional Labor is Dragging Down Gender Equality

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I'm not sure I buy this. In my experience at least, it all comes down to standards — it sounds like this woman has higher standards for what constitutes a "running household", and gets frustrated when her husband doesn't share those standards. It sounds like he would be content with boxes on the floor, dirty bathrooms, etc. When she asks him to raise the house to her standard, she is asking him to adopt her perspecti…

As a male, I can offer something of a counter-point: clutter makes me uncomfortable and I find it hard to ignore it or "let it go". If there's a full trash bin, I feel that I need to empty that bin before I can throw anything else away. This feeling is not shared by my partner who will happily wedge an item in around the edge or pile on top with the intention of emptying the bin at a later time, when it's more convenient.

It's not clear to me where the compromise in this situation might lie. First and foremost, I think it's important to admit that this isn't a big deal either way. But the fact that I am uncomfortable, or that the knowledge of the full bin itches at the back of my mind, makes it an issue I find difficult to dismiss. In my own life I try to remind myself that this is my own issue and that leaving the bin until later is not an unreasonable attitude to take.

In practice, I believe I often just deal with the bin (or whatever issue is at hand) and move on. Sometimes, I am ashamed to say, I get cranky and maybe even huff and puff as I do so. By the same token, on many occasions my partner will empty the bin even though they may prefer to leave it for later. I think that this is compromise, but it's not anything systemic and there's no "rule" that dictates who does what.

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