> Wisdom is a balance between cognition and emotion.
No.
Yes, We Get Wiser with Age
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#42Recently I have been thinking about this; a lot. How do we get wiser, not smarter or cleverer much quicker then we could go with age. I dont know if we could quantitatively measure how wise you are. So it is hard to tell if a person is wise or not. And a lot of times, you dont need to read 1000s of books, have a few DR degree or thesis to be wise. It seems wise and Intellect dont necessarily have a linear relationshi…
I think intelligence is our ability to learn and knowledge is what we have already learned. I think wisdom is knowing which one of those is not applicable for a given situation. It is a combination of intuition and experience, knowing if you should learn more or if you need to apply what you have already learned.
In a way, wisdom is recognizing when your knowledge is deficient.
No guarantees that my assessment is correct, but that works for me.
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#43> Wisdom is a balance between cognition and emotion. No.
No?
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#44> Empirical studies have shown that older people are better than younger ones in terms of control over emotion, knowing themselves better, making better decisions that require experience, and having more compassion and empathy towards others. These are the things I include in wisdom. So are things that are components of wisdom that can increase with aging. How does this explain Brexit? https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfro…
Not sure what you mean. There are plenty of arguments for leaving the EU.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am curious too, the brexit vote for many people was an emotional one. It was certainly not based in any logic that anyone can cite. That sample is too large to be anecdatum. However to play devils advocate; leave voters were drip fed anti-EU propaganda for decades with nobody on the EU side defending it, and the run up to the referendum there was a lot of lying. So the fault may be that people were more susceptible…
Just because someone examines the same facts as you and comes to a different conclusion, it doesn't mean their choice wasn't based on facts.
Analysing facts has nothing to do with it, and the EU only has europa.eu, not the entire Murdoch media franchise.
Regardless, there are simple facts that people seem to ignore in this debate so I can't take what you said as wholesome or objective.
For instance, the UK was the only member not to impose an easing period in regards to Poland joining the EU. As such we saw an influx of poles as those who wanted to emigrate had nowhere else to go. Purely self-inflicted. But politicians blame the EU for this.
Another instance is: "No way to inhibit EU freedom of movement for those who choose to move here! We have to give them all our benefit money!". Well, you have to afford EU citizens the same rights as UK citizens for 6 months, if they're not economically active they do not have the right to stay. The benefit law could easily be amended to be like Sweden/Denmark in that you get paid based on previous salaries, meaning you had to have held a job in the country before claiming income support.
Denmark is surprisingly hostile to immigrants even EU ones, we could have learned a lot from them if the argument is migration.
Particular instances of lying are: coercive wording "350M a week, lets spend it on the NHS instead" or, more explicit lies such as "Human rights prevented deportation of a criminal because he had a cat". The full reason he was not deported was because of his relationship, the cat was entered as evidence because he had bought it for his partner, it was an attempt by the defence to make the point that long-term relationships have some credence under the law in this age of declining marriage rates.
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#46Recently I have been thinking about this; a lot. How do we get wiser, not smarter or cleverer much quicker then we could go with age. I dont know if we could quantitatively measure how wise you are. So it is hard to tell if a person is wise or not. And a lot of times, you dont need to read 1000s of books, have a few DR degree or thesis to be wise. It seems wise and Intellect dont necessarily have a linear relationshi…
Unasked for advice, but maybe use fewer commas in your future writing.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am curious too, the brexit vote for many people was an emotional one. It was certainly not based in any logic that anyone can cite. That sample is too large to be anecdatum. However to play devils advocate; leave voters were drip fed anti-EU propaganda for decades with nobody on the EU side defending it, and the run up to the referendum there was a lot of lying. So the fault may be that people were more susceptible…
And remain voters were drip fed state-sponsored pro-EU propaganda as well. The EU spends tons of money for promoting itself.
As a british citizen, I had heard nothing about the EU outside of what british media told me. Had I not left the UK and actually seen the EU I would only have their opinion and that opinion is mostly controlled by one person.
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#48> Empirical studies have shown that older people are better than younger ones in terms of control over emotion, knowing themselves better, making better decisions that require experience, and having more compassion and empathy towards others. These are the things I include in wisdom. So are things that are components of wisdom that can increase with aging. How does this explain Brexit? https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfro…
I don't know enough about Brexit to form an opinion, which is good. It enables to to seriously ask this question.
Have you actually considered that your opinion on Brexit could be wrong? Have you really given that any consideration?
I don't have a nickel invested, so your answer doesn't matter to me. It may matter to you, however.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point wasn't about showing emotions, it was about controlling emotions so that you have conscious choice over whether to show them or not. For instance, in certain circumstances anger may be appropriate to be shown, but in other cases if you show anger it could work against you. Similarly with humour or any other emotion.
I see your point now, thanks. Still personally think that this makes people more "stiff" and more "false", so to speak, which I personally don't like. Maybe it's a cultural thing (I live in Eastern Europe, am in my mid-30s now).
You wouldn't want to live in a society where everything acted on their emotions only.
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#50we just get more averse to bad ideas, or have heard it all before.
We also learn from our mistakes and the older we are, the more we've made. When I think back to when I was younger (I'm 47) I realize how simplistic a lot of my beliefs were. These days I'm far more willing to listen to others and I make a lot fewer assumptions about why people do the things they do. I hope the trend continues. I think that's why I was a little sympathetic to that Google engineer that was recently fi…
Agreed. It's something like acquiring dimension in thinking.