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To treat back pain, look to the brain not the spine

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Re: To treat back pain, look to the brain not the spine

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I've had some minor back issues in my life. One of the most thorough, scientific approaches I found was Dr Stuart McGill' s books. A proper academic with a deep understanding of what's going on but also able to translate that into pragmatic advice for people in pain. Highly recommended. You can find various YouTube videos with him in then, which gave me the confidence that he was a knowledgeable geek and not some huc…

I noticed the author of the piece has a top level link dedicated to Dr McGill's work on her website for the book:

https://www.cathrynjakobsonramin.com/resources/2016/12/22/dr...

Re: To treat back pain, look to the brain not the spine

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Running and walking are the ultimate efficent exercises homo sapiens. In a perfect world all humans, within the standard deviation, are taught first and foremost how to care for there personal physical health from the time they can walk till they die. Walking and running would be the most efficient exercise for all humans. IMHO The issues that come from running are related to where you start from lacking knowledge an…

I'm sorry, but no amount of "ultimate efficient exercise" rhetoric makes running by itself a sufficient workout regime. You also need to do some kind of strength training. A push, a pull, a spinal compression and a spinal tension. Eg pushups, rows, squats, pullups. Otherwise your core will be weak and you will be missing key stabilizing muscles that prevent injury when you are in an unusual position, like picking up…

This is exactly the issue with what people think about running/walking and how people execute their motion. You can make any exercise a core strength exercise. I run and walk from my çore, I perform all motion from my core. This is a feeling and skill you learn from taijiquan and it is applicable to any type of exercise.

Re: To treat back pain, look to the brain not the spine

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Yoga is not recommended for people with lower back pain. When I started having back pain, somebody suggested to me yoga. Everything went great for three months, the pain was still there but lesser , and I felt good and fit. Then one day, while doing surya namaskar, I felt a pain ripping through my spine and fell down, unable to move. I consulted an M.D , and he immediately asked me if I had been doing surya namaskar.…

I really like this HN thread. It is a wonderful series of coming outs! I want to reply on all comments here and ask and ask and ask. But this post is most relevant, because I started doing surya namaskar on my non-training days, and in general when I only an hour or so to move my body a bit. Do you remember the exact conditions when you fell down (movement, which part of the day, what did you do before, etc). Have yo…

One year back, I started having back pain. I could not sit for more than 45 minutes. I had tripped over the steps some months back and I was thinking it must be because of that.I went to a Dr and took an x-ray. The diagnosis was that it had nothing to do with the fall , an everything to do with my long working hours. The doctor also advised strengthening my core . He referred me to a physiotherapist , and after 1 month of regular therapy I could now sit for around 3 hours before light pain would start.

I felt ready to start exercising and zeroed in on yoga. I started practicing with a group of people , led by an instructor. It was very intensive (hatha yoga) and most exercises involved stretching your arms and touching your feet.Other exercises like the bow pose, crow pose and head stand was also there. Sometimes, while I was sitting and touching my foot, the instructor would use his body weight to push my spine down from behind so that my stomach touched my knees. This may be the reason , but am not sure. So, after 3 months of this , I felt better and fitter than ever before and joined another yoga studio near to my home. Here, the poses were not as tough as the other place, but was done considerably faster. 1 month after joining there, I am bending down to touch my knees , and lightning strikes.I couldn't walk and was bedridden for a week. The time must have been around 7 pm. I went after work and did some warm ups as usual.

Coming to the reasons, I can think two things : the instructor exerting his force on my spine and the faster pace of the exercising. This is onle conjecture though.

Right now ,after some months of physical therapy and no other exercise, I have no pain while sitting.

I certainly plan to go back to my yoga practice. However , before I do I need to get some expert advice and some tests done.

I hope this answered all your questions!

Edit:just to be clear, the two reasons I stated are in addition to the main point I made, that some yoga poses are not safe for everyone.

Re: To treat back pain, look to the brain not the spine

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Lovely article, as an orthopaedic surgeon I can tell you that most of us know this. Treating chronic pain with surgery is generally a bad idea, I spend a large share of my time explaining this. Some patients are grateful for this, but I think that many go and try to find "a real doctor". An interesting development is that there is generally an increased acceptance for psychiatric diagnoses. More are accepting that ju…

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Re: To treat back pain, look to the brain not the spine

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Hey man after 3 years I just finally beat back pain - it is possible. In my case it was physical therapy until i understood the routine to strengthen the core and stretching. I also changed how I work: no sitting, ever. Laying or standing. I lost weight (i am 6'1 got down to 165). I took stretching serious, you should be able to touch your toes. You need to drink milk. For depression find a position to work while you…

If you're enthusiastic about milk and believe that strength is the way out of pain, I have the best recommendation for you: Starting Strength.

+1 to Starting Strength

Re: To treat back pain, look to the brain not the spine

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I had somewhat bad back pain for a long while (squash injury). The thing that made the most difference was a core strengthening class I did (basically Pilates and specific stretches).

Did you see a GP or a physiotherapist?

I had mostly been to physio's, but, I had had an MRI too..just to make sure.
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