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Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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Post by WorldMaker »

lostmsu wrote: post #98
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #59

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The fact that Microsoft is pushing Universal apps so hard, and if you're making a universal app for desktops, it's trivially easy to allow it to also work on Mobile. A not-insignificant number of times I've installed an app on my desktop and then realized I can use it on my phone, or installed a phone app, and realized it's great on my desktop too. If UWP takes off, their mobile app support will follow. New Windows 1…

> New Windows 10 S devices only running UWP apps will encourage this progress a lot. If anybody will actually buy them.

There's a setting now to set Windows 10 Home and Pro to only allow Store apps as well. How soon until that tempts more of us that do unpaid tech support in our free time for family and friends to just turn that setting on for them?

Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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Post by 201709User »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #58
201709User wrote: post #23

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Are we supposed to buy legacy/obscure devices to get it though? They lied about upgrading my 920 very blatantly.

> Are we supposed to buy legacy/obscure devices to get it though? It hasn't been advertised to regular consumers because it's targeted at business users but the HP Elite x3 is the current flagship Windows Phone device.

I guess you are right but the price/feature combination is not for me.

Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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Post by WorldMaker »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #33
MBCook wrote: post #20

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I don’t know how it could. It doesn’t matter how nice it is the app ecosystem is too important and they’d be light years behind. If they emulated Android (like Blackberry)... why not just buy an android phone?

The kind of apps we're using today won't exist anymore in 5 years. I believe that Microsoft will dominate in AR, and quickly become the leading platform.

I feel like the people currently mocking Microsoft for how "boring" the HoloLens has quickly become because it's primary focus hasn't been games but enterprise and it's still not very consumer-friendly, are missing exactly why Microsoft is likely to be the leading AR platform. What Apple and Google are doing are still just fun toys for kids; HoloLens is already powering incredible business applications in places as disparate as NASA JPL and Ford.

Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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Post by WorldMaker »

chiph wrote: post #12

I really liked my Windows Phone and wish they were still being made. The OS was stable and fast, and you could resize the squares to make them easier to hit with your thumb. Battery life was good. I think if they'd gone with premium hardware they'd make sales to people who appreciate a good looking phone and one that didn't make them wait for pointless animations to finish. Now that Microsoft has talented hardware pe…

I like following rumors about possible "Surface Phones", because now that Windows 10 on mobile is a lot more stable than it was at launch it seems a shame there isn't a crazy new hardware device to get excited about. I particularly love the latest rumor (which fascinates me so much) that Alex Kipman of HoloLens/Kinect team could surprise everyone with a true AR handheld "HoloPhone" relative to the HoloLens. That could be a lot of fun if true, and left-field enough that it could generate a lot of fresh Windows handheld computer interest.

Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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Post by 201709User »

Dolores12 wrote: post #51
201709User wrote: post #23

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Are we supposed to buy legacy/obscure devices to get it though? They lied about upgrading my 920 very blatantly.

If you are talking about Windows 10 mobile on lumia 920 you can upgrade it by installing their app called Upgrade Advisor[0] in windows store. [0] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13778

It doesn't work. Why would you waste my time like that? Have you tried it like I just did? Have you seen the comments there?

Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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Post by moftz »

michaelbrooks wrote: post #50
Clubber wrote: post #38

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I was really hoping to have a full Windows 10 phone that ran x86-64 apps and you could then dock and use like a regular computer. I think Intel scuttled that idea when they dropped the mobile chip though. It could have been a game changer.

It's still 100% possible and could be happening either this or next year as mentioned by Snapdragon [0]. There is a Youtube video showcasing full Windows 10 running on an ARM processor [1]. Windows Central have also reported Microsoft's next vision of the OS called "Andromeda" there will be a base OS that can have components bolted on [2]. [0] http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-hardware/windows-10/28534/win... [1] https:…

ARM isn't x86_64...

Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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Post by anilgulecha »

moftz wrote: post #106
michaelbrooks wrote: post #50

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It's still 100% possible and could be happening either this or next year as mentioned by Snapdragon [0]. There is a Youtube video showcasing full Windows 10 running on an ARM processor [1]. Windows Central have also reported Microsoft's next vision of the OS called "Andromeda" there will be a base OS that can have components bolted on [2]. [0] http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-hardware/windows-10/28534/win... [1] https:…

ARM isn't x86_64...

MS has successfully run intel windows via emulation on ARM.

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/249292-microsoft-decla...

Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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Post by ivm »

vbezhenar wrote: post #36
pweissbrod wrote: post #8

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As an ex-WP user who also switched to android I would argue the android UX is a step backward in some respects. When I open an app in WP I received immediate loading/animation feedback. In android many core actions (such as initiating a phone call) cause temporary freeze while the app loads. Did the phone receive my tap? Do I need to tap again or wait? Coming from a more fluid interface like the WP this is something…

May be your Android is underpowered? It's not an excuse, of course. My iPhone 4S might lag for a few seconds between receiving tap and displaying an action. Modern iPhone (or iPhone 4S with iOS 6) responded instantly. Or it could indicate some kind of hardware problem, where driver is causing delay somewhere in the stack, for example very slow SD-card or something similar.

I had Lumia 520 ($140) for a year and it was snappier than any $300+ Android I've tried.

Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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Post by pjmlp »

nwah1 wrote: post #99
pjmlp wrote: post #66

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Windows 10 Mobile is not getting the Fall Creators Update, it was parked in a development branch, guess how many of us still care about doing UWP apps for it?

The newest and most common out of the existing phones are getting the fall creators update, but a "feature2" branch without CShell. I believe CShell can run all the existing UWP apps. .NET and UWP sound like they'll be unaffected by CShell, except that developers targetting CShell will want to ensure their apps work on a larger range of display resolutions.

I doubt any Windows developer would be willing to keep on that track, after yet another deception.

Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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Post by pjmlp »

WorldMaker wrote: post #100
pjmlp wrote: post #66

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Windows 10 Mobile is not getting the Fall Creators Update, it was parked in a development branch, guess how many of us still care about doing UWP apps for it?

Rumors abound that 10 on mobile isn't getting the FCU for reasons of surprise/marketing/skipping ahead to Redstone 4. There's a lot of talk about "Andromeda OS" and the idea that it is something different from Windows 10 on mobile, but there's also signs/rumors that seem to say "Andromeda OS" is just an internal project name for the release plans after FCU (which is Redstone 3).

The problem with that decision, is that the very last ones actually enjoying WP10, just lost any hope left.
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