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Re: “Adobe Flash Player is required for interactive charts”

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

Okvivi wrote: post #46

I built those charts on Google Finance. At the time (10 years ago) there was no better alternative for building interactive charting in browsers. After I left Google Finance I feel that the team has attempted a few times to remove Flash, but I don't know why they didn't succeed. Others on this thread are probably right - finance is not enough of a focus for Google, only so many engineering hours, better spent on othe…

You certainly set a standard with the interactivity and general functioning of the charts you built! Kudos

I'm curious as to why, if it's seemed so difficult to replace them, that Google hasn't gone with a rather wide-spread and capable library like High Charts?[0][1]

edit: Or am I missing the core problem. Not that it's difficult for Google to coordinate on an internal chart library, but rather that it's a problem of integrating a new display format?

And while we're on charting, I recommend having a look at: https://cryptowat.ch/ (Though it has a bit of a different purpose)

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[0] https://www.highcharts.com/

[1] https://www.highcharts.com/demo

Re: “Adobe Flash Player is required for interactive charts”

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Post by inthewoods »

pja wrote: post #2

Google Finance is a dead product walking: Are there any developers actually working on it at all?

www.tradingview.com

Real-time data via BATS, amazing charts/tooling - all done without Flash. Why one of the brokers hasn't bought them yet is beyond me - so much better than 99% of all trading software put out there by the brokers.

Re: “Adobe Flash Player is required for interactive charts”

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Post by OtterCoder »

ccarse wrote: post #80
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to see them sit on their money and run their network in maintenance mode forever rather than rashly spend it and risk the loss of one of the biggest core resources to modern society to overspending. Wikipedia certainly doesn't need to beg users for money with big intrusive banners, they just need to cut excess costs!

The Craigslist model.

An amazingly effective model, if unglamorous.

Re: “Adobe Flash Player is required for interactive charts”

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Post by gberger »

dante_dev wrote: post #13
Aardwolf wrote: post #10

The article title is wrong. The real message is: "Adobe Flash Player is required for interactive charts." The title is: "Adobe Flash Player is required for charts" I see a chart without flash, it's just not interactive (but a static rendered image)

Really the title should be "Adobe Flash Player is required for finance.google.com interactive charts until they port it to html5"

(finance.google.com) is already next to the title

Re: “Adobe Flash Player is required for interactive charts”

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Post by Okvivi »

reagan83 wrote: post #53
Okvivi wrote: post #46

I built those charts on Google Finance. At the time (10 years ago) there was no better alternative for building interactive charting in browsers. After I left Google Finance I feel that the team has attempted a few times to remove Flash, but I don't know why they didn't succeed. Others on this thread are probably right - finance is not enough of a focus for Google, only so many engineering hours, better spent on othe…

Thanks for building this 10 years ago. This was my first repo I looked at as a noogler earlier this year because I wanted to understand the effort req’d to replace flash charts. It looked a bit more complex than I was expecting but I still have it as #1 on my backlog for a multi-weekend project.

Happy to hear that! :-)

Despite being a little bit more complex than I think it needed to be (I was a junior engineer after all, and this was my first project at my first job) I still think there's more complexity than meets the eye. Like anything that looks simple, there's tons of work behind it.

Re: “Adobe Flash Player is required for interactive charts”

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Post by Okvivi »

52-6F-62 wrote: post #81
Okvivi wrote: post #46

I built those charts on Google Finance. At the time (10 years ago) there was no better alternative for building interactive charting in browsers. After I left Google Finance I feel that the team has attempted a few times to remove Flash, but I don't know why they didn't succeed. Others on this thread are probably right - finance is not enough of a focus for Google, only so many engineering hours, better spent on othe…

You certainly set a standard with the interactivity and general functioning of the charts you built! Kudos I'm curious as to why, if it's seemed so difficult to replace them, that Google hasn't gone with a rather wide-spread and capable library like High Charts?[0][1] edit: Or am I missing the core problem. Not that it's difficult for Google to coordinate on an internal chart library, but rather that it's a problem o…

I don't know enough about HighCharts. Funny to see that they also copied / were inspired by the Google Finance Charts sparkbar (that's what we called the thing that shows you the summary at the bottom with the handles that you can drag).

I'd imagine is a combination of "not built here", pride (google engineers always feel that they can build everything better than the outside world), and performance (Google was investing, and I imagine continues to invest, vast amounts of engineering in speed).

Re: “Adobe Flash Player is required for interactive charts”

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Post by reagan83 »

yosyp wrote: post #75
reagan83 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for building this 10 years ago. This was my first repo I looked at as a noogler earlier this year because I wanted to understand the effort req’d to replace flash charts. It looked a bit more complex than I was expecting but I still have it as #1 on my backlog for a multi-weekend project.

Are Google employees expected to work on Google services over multi-weekends? Are you compensated or is this for fun? If you're working for free and your work is not open source it seems like you are being taken advantage of by your employer.

I think about it a little differently: I don’t work on that product team, but I’ve benefited from using google finance for almost a decade and have the skillset + interest to help contribute back to that product.

Re: “Adobe Flash Player is required for interactive charts”

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Post by jmh530 »

IBM wrote: post #60
Okvivi wrote: post #46

I built those charts on Google Finance. At the time (10 years ago) there was no better alternative for building interactive charting in browsers. After I left Google Finance I feel that the team has attempted a few times to remove Flash, but I don't know why they didn't succeed. Others on this thread are probably right - finance is not enough of a focus for Google, only so many engineering hours, better spent on othe…

The idea that Google has been spending engineering hours on other parts of Google Finance is ridiculous to me. I don't think there's been an update to it in over 5 years. They seem to be doing something to it finally, because there's a notice at the top of Portfolios saying that feature is being removed.

My stupid work computer makes me re-install flash pretty much every time I use it. That instantly makes it way too annoying to use google finance's charts. Thankfully yahoo finance has gotten a little better recently and doesn't need flash. They both kind of suck though.

Re: “Adobe Flash Player is required for interactive charts”

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Post by jmh530 »

mywittyname wrote: post #41
coldcode wrote: post #32

Funny thing is they used to have interactive charts without Flash. But then I've always felt the janitorial staff worked on google.finance. When companies go out of business or merge they stick around in the site for months sometimes. Or ever try the stock screener? What an unsmiling pile of poor. Yet they have the data and the horsepower to do amazing things with it, but since it apparently makes no revenue, its not…

Google doesn't have an public finance API to use for creating a better product, do they?

They used to, shut down in 2012.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/google-finance-apis

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