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Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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There's a mild delight in noting that Microsoft failed to break into someone else's platform stranglehold. Personally I wasn't sad to see it fail to obtain a place in the market.

Disclaimer -- I've never used a Microsoft phone. Indeed, I only know one person that had one - and even then it was an employer decision. Nor have I ever heard anyone wish out loud that their phone was more like their Microsoft Windows computer, or that it integrated better with their existing Microsoft systems. People who want to 'think different' could have embraced Maemo, BB, Sailfish, Firefox, or various other niche platforms. And then observed the same problem -- lack of people developing applications for them.

Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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I really liked my Windows Phone and wish they were still being made. The OS was stable and fast, and you could resize the squares to make them easier to hit with your thumb. Battery life was good. I think if they'd gone with premium hardware they'd make sales to people who appreciate a good looking phone and one that didn't make them wait for pointless animations to finish.

Now that Microsoft has talented hardware people working on really nice products like Surface, they could probably do an in-house design on a new phone. Borrow a page from Motorola/Google's Moto X Pure Edition and put a wooden back on it - it's grippier than plastic or glass, and looks classier too.

Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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Windows Phone 8 was probably one of the best OS's Microsoft ever did. It was fast on cheap hardware and the UI actually had just one idea instead of several layers of cruft of generations of unfinished new ideas. It was more open than iOS where it counted and more closed than Android where it mattered. So naturally it failed.

Windows 10 Mobile is better. Developers can use the same XAML + C# toolchain for universal apps, but easily deploy to desktops as well. The Edge browser is much better. It is fast, and shares the same kernel as regular Windows, as well as Xbox.

The upcoming mobile version will have something called CShell which means that the interface will be shared among desktop and mobile, meaning that there will be no differences aside from x86 support.

Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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The total failure of Windows Phone to gain acceptance in the market is a huge pity. I have a Lumina 950 as a secondary device (for loading with a local SIM while abroad) and it’s a solid performer with a polished OS, refreshingly ’different’ UI, and excellent basics (build quality, call quality, and battery life). The basic, core apps I ’need’ in this role are available (WhatsApp, Facebook/Messenger, Twitter, & ceter…

Every major version was a new os. Their phone strategy was terrible and lacked commitment. It didn't help that it was started by one CEO and abandoned midway through by the next CEO.

> Every major version was a new os.

I had had some Nokia phone with WP7 and it was a pretty nice phone despite lacking some apps, and I was looking forward the the future of the platform. Of course when the future did come witn WP8, they said there would be no updates to existing phones and they were pushing developers to use APIs that would only work on the new OS meaning my limited pool of apps wouldn't grow on my current phone, which hurt more than the no OS upgrade. While the lack of OS upgrade isn't uncommon in the Android world, Google doesn't generally push developers to abandon the old OS base so quickly. So with my Windows Phone basically EOL'd overnight(within about 6 months or so of buying it), I went back to Android.

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The total failure of Windows Phone to gain acceptance in the market is a huge pity. I have a Lumina 950 as a secondary device (for loading with a local SIM while abroad) and it’s a solid performer with a polished OS, refreshingly ’different’ UI, and excellent basics (build quality, call quality, and battery life). The basic, core apps I ’need’ in this role are available (WhatsApp, Facebook/Messenger, Twitter, & ceter…

Is there an expectation that most phones won't be able to provide hotspot / tethering for various platforms (not sure if there's some peculiarities with the three precisely branded devices you mention)?

Polished OS, build quality, call quality, battery life -- these features are all available (and were pre-Microsoft mobile) in both Android and Apple worlds.

Be cautious about assuming that the applications you use are all other people will want. I suspect the massive disparity in application volume & variety was the driving force behind Microsoft abandoning this platform.

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At one point, Microsoft was reported to be earning somewhere in the neighborhood of $2B per year in revenues from IP licensing agreements with Android ODMs. I think that's largely fallen away now, but it's not as if Microsoft didn't get a pound of flesh from this platform, commercially.

http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-earns-2-billion-per...

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post #12

I really liked my Windows Phone and wish they were still being made. The OS was stable and fast, and you could resize the squares to make them easier to hit with your thumb. Battery life was good. I think if they'd gone with premium hardware they'd make sales to people who appreciate a good looking phone and one that didn't make them wait for pointless animations to finish. Now that Microsoft has talented hardware pe…

Acer, HP, and Alcatel still make them. Microsoft doesn't make any and Windows Phone 8 is dead, I think.

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Long story short: Developers, developers, developers, developers. The same reason why people won't switch from Windows to Linux is why people won't switch from Android to Windows Phone.

It’s not only developers (although that was a HUGE Robles and also one of the big two problems with WebOS).

Every time they made a huge change in the OS (for the better) basically none of the existing phones go it. So every time they updated they were basically throwing away the previous platform. If apps weren’t compatible (I don’t know) they may have been resetting that as well.

Combined with how late they were to the party that was just a death sentence.

Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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post #11

There's a mild delight in noting that Microsoft failed to break into someone else's platform stranglehold. Personally I wasn't sad to see it fail to obtain a place in the market. Disclaimer -- I've never used a Microsoft phone. Indeed, I only know one person that had one - and even then it was an employer decision. Nor have I ever heard anyone wish out loud that their phone was more like their Microsoft Windows compu…

I, and it seems a few others in this thread, like our Windows phones. It's the only Microsoft code I have running, actually.

Re: Bill Gates switches to Android phone

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Windows Phone was the best thing since webOS. The developer experience was (and still is) a lot better than for iOS or Android. I'm sure it will eventually come back.

I don’t know how it could. It doesn’t matter how nice it is the app ecosystem is too important and they’d be light years behind.

If they emulated Android (like Blackberry)... why not just buy an android phone?

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