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Re: Giving you more characters

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post #58

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Really powerful text. Can't remember when last time couple of words touched me like those.

May I suggest this reading of a Charles Bukowski poem. It's helped me to get out of bed a number of times, when the days look so foreboding. http://youtu.be/yVisTfbVSFE

You may also be interested in this excellent Bukowski poem, with a beautiful matching video:

https://vimeo.com/26946995

Re: Giving you more characters

#402
post #260

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It's kind of weird that it doesn't. You could so easily change the "sixty-seven" to "twenty-five".

he used 97 words to say "I love you" 32.333 times, you're taking away 42, so he would also have to say "I love you" eighteen and a third times

Where did he say 97 words to say I love you? I don't see that in the poem. Am I too dumb to see what is happening!???

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post #216

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Or they could use a browser that displays stuff correctly.

The browser's displaying things just fine. The problem is forums that provide custom markup implementing an insufficient subset of what HTML allows for. In this case, HN provides formatting for blocks of code, but not quoted blocks of prose.

Then what's the problem? I can see the poem on a mobile browser. Although you have to use landscape.

Re: Giving you more characters

#404
post #224

It would seem to me that the solution to the problem described in the blog would be to reduce the number of characters allowed for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese users. The whole appeal of twitter, I thought, was if you said what you wanted to say the system forced you to reconsider how you said it until you got down to the bare essence of what you were trying to convey. I'd be in favor of a maximum number of tweets p…

Yeah, this reasoning especially also struck me as weird, because Twitter's 140 character limit was chosen from an English-speaking viewpoint. The limit for Asian languages should have been adjusted downwards as early as Twitter launched (though I suppose that's actually somewhat hard to do from a technological viewpoint, as people might mix Western letters and Asian symbols). And then they point out that in Asian cou…

When I type an actual SMS, the 160 limit seems to be reduced if I add non-English characters, like emoji or possibly even just an em-dash. So they could simply have followed SMS more closely, 140 bytes or something.

Re: Giving you more characters

#405
post #260

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he used 97 words to say "I love you" 32.333 times, you're taking away 42, so he would also have to say "I love you" eighteen and a third times

Where did he say 97 words to say I love you? I don't see that in the poem. Am I too dumb to see what is happening!???

> so I slowly whisper I love you > thirty-two and a third times.

"I love you" is 3 words. 3 * 32.333333 = 97

Re: Giving you more characters

#406
post #357
post #226

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Now I feel silly after having just read the parent comment on mobile by constantly scrolling left and right.

The 80 character line limit is making it's return (for me it never left though).

I agree, but the longest line in the poem has 45 characters.

Re: Giving you more characters

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post #254
post #224

It would seem to me that the solution to the problem described in the blog would be to reduce the number of characters allowed for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese users. The whole appeal of twitter, I thought, was if you said what you wanted to say the system forced you to reconsider how you said it until you got down to the bare essence of what you were trying to convey. I'd be in favor of a maximum number of tweets p…

There is precedent of treating CJK characters as "double-width", but it's anachronistic in a world of proportional fonts and UTF-8. CJK users also don't use CJK characters exclusively. There's almost always single-byte characters mixed in, such as URLs and numbers, and in the case of Korean, even punctuation. If some characters count as 1 and others count as 2, it will result in fluctuating limits that are hard to gr…

If you used CJK before UTF-8 was popular, you would know that people had absolutely no issue counting some characters as 2. It’s entirely natural. In typical proportional fonts CJK characters still occupy about twice the width of a Latin character.

Re: Giving you more characters

#409
post #359

Can someone explain this: "But in English, a much higher percentage of Tweets have 140 characters (9%). Most Japanese Tweets are 15 characters while most English Tweets are 34" Why is 34 characters considered most tweets when the chart shows 140 characters higher than "34"? As labeled, the hump is lower than spike at 140 characters. What am I missing? Edit: Is the author saying the mode is 34?

This confused me as well. The chart leaves much to be desired if the quote is accurate.

Re: Giving you more characters

#410
post #162

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I feel like the core value proposition is something like "public expressions that can be consumed quickly and produced with little forethought". I think it's important that Twitter gives you the excuse to be less precise: there isn't enough space. It's a small thing sure, but if you look at the differences between the popular social platforms, it's all about small differences. If Twitter loses that which distinguishe…

Concur. Imagine an idiot (any idiot) blurting out bileful rubbish. When the platform limits his words, that works in his favour - no nuance can be conveyed, his utterances are sharp, authentic sounding, plausible. Give him 1000 words to make his case, and suddenly he's stuck. His thoughts were never that deep, and they don't stand up well to being expanded on - there wasn't any substance to begin with. Twitter is wha…

> Imagine an idiot (any idiot) blurting out bileful rubbish. > Give him 1000 words to make his case, and suddenly he's

... now blurting out 1000 words of bileful rubbish instead of 100.

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