201–210 of 225 posts
Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are still groups of humans living relatively or completely unconnected from the world that wouldn't seem out of place 10,000 years ago. It's not exactly appalling that societies that don't respect basic freedoms exist, it's appalling that they're allowed to participate at all in the global economy and society. >
There are fewer and fewer http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/gold-miners-murder-...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
But a degree in history would show you that yes, indeed you can marginalize half your population and be quite successful for a very long time.
When money bubbles out of the ground or grows on trees, yes, yes you can.
Serious question: how safe is it to drive with a burqa?
"Low oil prices have limited the government jobs that many Saudis have long relied on, and the kingdom is trying to push more citizens, including women, into gainful employment. But some working Saudi women say hiring private drivers to get them to and from work eats up much of their pay, diminishing the incentive to work." I'm guessing that this is the biggest driver - Saudi Arabia just cannot afford to not allow th…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Iran was still far more liberal in general before the cultural revolution, no? Women don't have to be in nice clothes in urban areas to not be repressed by clerical rule backed by state rule... There may have been societal pressure but it's significantly different when it's backed by government security services and religious police.
Yes, the Shah of Iran pushed a massive modernisation program [aka liberal agenda] to westernise Iran. The pushback from conservative elements was one of the driving forces of the revolution. The interference from western powers to prop up the Shah did not help matters. At least this was the impression I got from my time in Iran and visiting the tourist sites.
It was a coalition of factions that took him down including socialists and communists. The ayatollah and his followers seized the country within a few years though and turned it into an Islamic republic.
Just today I had someone casually mention that he thought women should not be allowed to vote. This is the Netherlands, the person is Dutch, not muslim or some other culture that I might not be used to, we're master's students... nothing out of the ordinary. And the third person in the conversation apparently agreed, calling it bad to prohibit it in principle but "seeing the effects of allowing women to vote" he agre…
Women pretty much vote the same as men. Which actually disappointed the Suffragettes to some degree.
Just today I had someone casually mention that he thought women should not be allowed to vote. This is the Netherlands, the person is Dutch, not muslim or some other culture that I might not be used to, we're master's students... nothing out of the ordinary. And the third person in the conversation apparently agreed, calling it bad to prohibit it in principle but "seeing the effects of allowing women to vote" he agre…
I downvoted you because your post is anecdotic and doesn’t really bring anything to the conversation
But do they have to be accompanied on that drive by a male relative?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not whataboutism, it's bringing up a similar sentiment in a different context and despairing about the attitude. A critical component of whataboutism is the part where you say "you are not in a position to criticize," which this person did not do.
> bringing up a similar sentiment Killing women by throwing rocks at them because they dishonored the family is totally in the same direction of thoughts as accusing women of voting with their hearts over rationalism. Please. I don't like conservatives either but it's an entirely different category of messed up we're talking about.