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Re: Giving you more characters

#361
post #325

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Making people stop and think, and sometimes abandon what they were going to say, is a really good aspect of Twitter.

Doesn't seem to be working, does it? I'm a fairly verbose person and nothing I ever want to say fits in 140 characters. And the stuff I see on twitter that DOES fit into 140, well, I'm typically better off not reading it. (222 characters)

Doesn't seem to be working. I'm fairly verbose, nothing I ever want to say fits in 140 characters. I'm better off not reading what DOES fit. (140)

Re: Giving you more characters

#362
post #35

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Remember that the 140 count was based on SMS (160 total, giving 20 for the handle and a colon). It wasn't a randomly picked number.

It also correlates to the # of characters Google allows in it's headlines. It's worth noting that there is something to the # of characters a human can scan & understand without turning it's full focus to it.

Can you explain what you mean by this? If you're talking about the 'title' of each search result, it looks like it's capped at a way lower number of characters than that.

Re: Giving you more characters

#363
post #325

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Doesn't seem to be working, does it? I'm a fairly verbose person and nothing I ever want to say fits in 140 characters. And the stuff I see on twitter that DOES fit into 140, well, I'm typically better off not reading it. (222 characters)

Doesn't seem to be working. I'm fairly verbose, nothing I ever want to say fits in 140 characters. I'm better off not reading what DOES fit. (140)

This version reads to me as almost irritated, as if you're ranting about something.

This might be a situation I'd abandon the post completely because there's no way to communicate my post in the proper tone and context.

Re: Giving you more characters

#364

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I wish it would take longer, because frankly it's a dumb idea. It defeats the purpose of Twitter.

It’s also dumb when I have to read 3 tweets in a sequence by the same person trying to get a single point across, each one with a different set of comments, likes, and retweets. Im not sure this will fix it though, maybe it will help. I feel like the same could be accomplished with an expando at whatever limit they set. That way when I browse twitter the tweet boxes are still the same size as originally, and if i wan…

I enjoy being able to choose a specific statement and spin off a whole debate from there.

I often think Twitter’s main problem is their inability to play this to their advantage.

What if they could organise threads where if the author changes their mind in an earlier tweet (the premise), then the later tweets would no longer follow and stop forming a valid argument.

Re: Giving you more characters

#365
post #262

Have they gone into any detail about how exactly they're going to enforce different limits for different languages? If it's by the localization of your browser/app, what's stopping someone from changing their language to English and then typing 280 Japanese characters? If it's by doing some sort of language recognition on the tweet, how will it deal with mixed content?

They could do something like this:

280 character limit.

1 Japanese character counts as 2 characters.

If you have the Japanese locale, the limit is still visually displayed at 140, and your displayed count is halved (and rounded down).

Re: Giving you more characters

#366
post #224

It would seem to me that the solution to the problem described in the blog would be to reduce the number of characters allowed for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese users. The whole appeal of twitter, I thought, was if you said what you wanted to say the system forced you to reconsider how you said it until you got down to the bare essence of what you were trying to convey. I'd be in favor of a maximum number of tweets p…

>> I'd be in favor of a maximum number of tweets per day, too.

A while back, I spent a few days hashing out a concept for a social network that would impose posting limits. The initial obvious approach is a single post per 24 hours, to really make each person think about whether hitting send is worth it. However, I cast this aside as being too restrictive.

Introducing the concept of categories: you can post once per 24 hours, but per user-defined category, up to some maximum category limit per account. You could post once about your cooking hobby, once about your programming hobby/career, once about the news, etc. Your followers could subscribe or unsubscribe to your individual categories; someone can opt to see your cooking and news posts, but ignore your posts about programming.

The concept starts to collapse at the "policing" stage. People would cheat by using all of their categories to spam a single topic, or to bypass followers' unsubscribing from a topic they just must be heard on. This necessitates a moderation system whereby followers could vote on posts, or report those which are miscategorized. With such a system in place, the possibility exists to increase the limit to 2-3 posts per day in categories for which someone receives overwhelmingly positive (or nonnegative) feedback. Dealing with users' and bots' vote manipulation is of course a never-ending battle.

The concept completely disintegrates when you consider who, as a publisher of content, would choose such a platform. A lot of people love sharing their every thought, meal, personality test, quiz, BuzzFeed article, etc. Such people would never opt in to a platform that limits their ability to do so - and why should they? Companies, celebrities, and other popular figures rightfully depend on being able to communicate whenever it suits them, so this concept is utterly useless to them.

Thus the market is tiny, to the point of being non-existent, for limiting the publishing side of the equation. This pushes the entire problem to the side of the readers/followers. We as consumers really just want to be able to intricately tailor what we see. I'm hoping we will soon have AI that can appropriately categorize posts, so I can filter out every single post having to do with personality tests and quizzes, BuzzFeed-like links, anything and everything having to do with US politics (I'm not American), animal abuse (I'm really tired of "save the animals"), and the constant stream of photos from new parents parading their children. I stopped using FaceBook entirely because their filtering options are just not adequate. Nor do I expect FaceBook to ever offer such filtering, as it would nullify all the mindless drivel that keeps their users engaged with their platform.

Lastly, I considered a monetization strategy whereby a user could pay (heavily) to post above their allocated limit. It sounds useful if you imagine people using it very rarely to push out that one extra gem that surely all followers would love to see. Of course, "pay to play" has no place in a social network designed to reduce the number of posts, and I couldn't come up with a solution to have my cake and eat it too. A "pay per post" strategy would be the foundation of a standalone concept - one for which no market exists.

tldr; A social network that limits publishers' ability to maximize engagement will never gain traction. What we need, as consumers of social networking, is the ability to perform advanced categorization and filtering of existing content. Don't get your hopes up - FaceBook and Twitter will never allow us to skip straight to the "good stuff", as viewing only a dozen posts a day would decimate their engagement stats, including ad views.

Re: Giving you more characters

#367
post #123
post #89

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This is an experiment with a small group of users; it’s not affecting everyone.

Huh, I am in that group, and I have no clue how I got there, why, nor how do I get out. Proof I guess: https://twitter.com/r3bl_/status/912800305833799686

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/B_testing

Re: Giving you more characters

#368

I'm not sure what to make of this. I suppose there is nothing inherently ideal about the (arbitrary) 140 character limit on tweets. Why not 180, or 280, etc? Still, my first reaction was, this is .. a bad idea: the 140-character limit is iconic, it's at the core of their value proposition, and Twitter is going to dilute their brand if they abandon it. I think it's not only that people sometimes feel limited by the 14…

I agree with you that the 140 is iconic and it's probably not a good idea to abandon it. What's more, I feel like there was a very simple, elegant solution to this all along. It was to allow long-form text as a type of embedded media, treating it the same as video and pictures. That way you don't lose the iconic 140 characters thing, and you don't have any problem to solve by making weird compromises where the user n…

>What's more, I feel like there was a very simple, elegant solution to this all along. It was to allow long-form text as a type of embedded media, treating it the same as video and pictures.

Indeed, especially as people have been already doing this by sharing longer posts as pictures of text

Re: Giving you more characters

#369
post #269
post #97

I'm convinced there is no one at twitter that understands why they succeeded as a company. Their management team continually makes decisions that are reminiscent of shuffling around deck chairs on the titanic. I get the feeling that they only exist due to inertia which is a death sentence for most tech companies.

No one in silicon valley will say the reason, but it's blindingly obvious. It was dumb luck. Luck plays a part in every success and failure and Twitter was about 98% luck. There was and is no vision or strategy that explains this. No lessons to learn. Pure zeitgeist that is bound to crumble sometime after Trump leaves office.

They turned dumb phones into smart phones which was pretty amazing back when they launched.

Re: Giving you more characters

#370

Another cool feature could be not enabling people to start nuclear war on the service. This might get down voted as trolling, but the real trolling is going on between Donald Trump and North Korea. The fact that twitter continues to allow the racism, bigotry, sexism, antisemitism, climate change denial and warmongering of the most high profile account they have to go unchecked is ridiculously unethical. Instead of ta…

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