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Re: Giving you more characters

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Post by vacri »

c3534l wrote: post #224

It would seem to me that the solution to the problem described in the blog would be to reduce the number of characters allowed for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese users. The whole appeal of twitter, I thought, was if you said what you wanted to say the system forced you to reconsider how you said it until you got down to the bare essence of what you were trying to convey. I'd be in favor of a maximum number of tweets p…

> the system forced you to reconsider how you said it until you got down to the bare essence of what you were trying to convey

... and stripping away context and nuance, and ultimately providing such a paucity that people these days have trouble recognising context and nuance. Twitter's played a major hand in the damage to people's attention spans and ability to interpret communications effectively. Recognising subtext no longer seems to be a thing anymore.

Re: Giving you more characters

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Post by Grue3 »

c3534l wrote: post #224

It would seem to me that the solution to the problem described in the blog would be to reduce the number of characters allowed for Japanese, Korean, and Chinese users. The whole appeal of twitter, I thought, was if you said what you wanted to say the system forced you to reconsider how you said it until you got down to the bare essence of what you were trying to convey. I'd be in favor of a maximum number of tweets p…

You're missing the fact that Twitter's engagement is way higher in East Asian countries and that's because they can pretty much use Twitter as a normal blog. On the other hand in the countries with very long words (like Hungary and Finland) Twitter is not very popular. It's been clear for a while and I'm surprised they haven't implemented this sooner.

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Post by boyce »

orthecreedence wrote: post #287
mintplant wrote: post #44

Mastodon [0] has a default character limit of 500, which individual instances can turn up or down as they see fit (Mastodon is a federated network). Hundreds of thousands of people use it and the social dynamics work just fine, or even better, with the additional breathing room for expression. To me Twitter's attachment to such a low cap feels like an anachronism. [0] https://joinmastodon.org

I really wanted to like Mastodon, but their "default" instance is just too restrictive on speech. It's basically a tumblrina safe space network. I'm saying this as a mostly-liberal, not your average OMG LIBTARDS ARE SNOWFLAKES person. If a social network, even a federated one, wants to gain traction, it needs to be a bit more open. Yeah, nazis are obnoxious assholes, but I'd rather have a network with them on it (and…

Say the flagship instance was a free speech one, what do you think would be the consequences

Re: Giving you more characters

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Post by boyce »

mintplant wrote: post #44

Mastodon [0] has a default character limit of 500, which individual instances can turn up or down as they see fit (Mastodon is a federated network). Hundreds of thousands of people use it and the social dynamics work just fine, or even better, with the additional breathing room for expression. To me Twitter's attachment to such a low cap feels like an anachronism. [0] https://joinmastodon.org

Rapidly approaching a million accounts

Re: Giving you more characters

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Post by edanm »

roryisok wrote: post #336

Another cool feature could be not enabling people to start nuclear war on the service. This might get down voted as trolling, but the real trolling is going on between Donald Trump and North Korea. The fact that twitter continues to allow the racism, bigotry, sexism, antisemitism, climate change denial and warmongering of the most high profile account they have to go unchecked is ridiculously unethical. Instead of ta…

Are you kidding? You really think that Twitter should be censoring the president of the United States?

That is beyond ridiculous. His tweets are instantly newsworthy - would you object to CNN writing about them?

And if you've gotten to the point where your political philosophy is to censor the democratically elected leader of the US, you've basically removed all possibility of ever understanding about half the people in the country.

Re: Giving you more characters

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Post by Geee »

Zarel wrote: post #276

Everyone is criticizing this decision, but I think it's useful to point out that I've heard a lot of users say that Japanese Twitter has significantly fewer misunderstandings and toxicity and is a generally friendlier place than English Twitter. This might be a lot of the reason Twitter is trying this out.

I bet it's just Japanese culture itself, not Japanese Twitter.

Re: Giving you more characters

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Post by matunixe »

orthecreedence wrote: post #287
mintplant wrote: post #44

Mastodon [0] has a default character limit of 500, which individual instances can turn up or down as they see fit (Mastodon is a federated network). Hundreds of thousands of people use it and the social dynamics work just fine, or even better, with the additional breathing room for expression. To me Twitter's attachment to such a low cap feels like an anachronism. [0] https://joinmastodon.org

I really wanted to like Mastodon, but their "default" instance is just too restrictive on speech. It's basically a tumblrina safe space network. I'm saying this as a mostly-liberal, not your average OMG LIBTARDS ARE SNOWFLAKES person. If a social network, even a federated one, wants to gain traction, it needs to be a bit more open. Yeah, nazis are obnoxious assholes, but I'd rather have a network with them on it (and…

Yeah GTFO nazi lover, you definitely not belong on Mastodon.

Re: Giving you more characters

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Post by chairmanwow »

roryisok wrote: post #336

Another cool feature could be not enabling people to start nuclear war on the service. This might get down voted as trolling, but the real trolling is going on between Donald Trump and North Korea. The fact that twitter continues to allow the racism, bigotry, sexism, antisemitism, climate change denial and warmongering of the most high profile account they have to go unchecked is ridiculously unethical. Instead of ta…

I'm currently living in China, and I see things disappear from social media ALL THE TIME. It's not pleasant or proper, it's just scary to have someone else decide what you can or cannot see.

Say whatever you want, I'll make my own decisions about whether I'll believe you, hopefully without the aid of censorship, thank you very much.

Re: Giving you more characters

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Post by visarga »

nu11p01n73R wrote: post #334
1ris wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that 140 characters is what makes twitter twitter. But then again I can't understand what 140 characters are usefull for. I have a twitter account since 2007 (or 2008, not sure). I didn't get it back then. I came back more than once, as it got constantly more popular. I never got it. The quality of content tends to be, for my opinion, very poor. It's mostly people misrepesenting and insulting other. 1) Twitte…

I think the quality of the content really depend on the people we end up following. When I started Twitter, I started out with my school/college friends and some random tech blogs/site etc. My friends doesn't tweet a lot(Less people use Twitter in India compared to Facebook) or the sites that I follow mostly had crapy content, making my timeline looking awful. I stopped using Twitter. About a year before I came back…

I've had a Twitter account since 2008 but couldn't quite see what was great about it. Recently, I have 'followed' a bunch of Deep Learning guys and it's a whole different thing. It's even more dynamic than /r/machinelearning, maybe the best place to discuss DL online.
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