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Re: Technology preview: Private contact discovery for Signal

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Post by literallycancer »

tuxxy wrote: post #75
mintplant wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, that's a different feature with the same name. That allows you to quickly layer graphics from a built-in set on top of existing photos, like in Snapchat. The "stickers" I'm referring to, in the Telegram/WeChat/LINE sense, are essentially custom emojis, or macros for sending one of a collection of reaction images as its own message. https://telegram.org/blog/stickers-revolution Various communities absolutely rely…

I'm not criticizing you when you say that you need stickers, but please help me understand: how do you rely on stickers to communicate? I can understand them being a nice UI/UX feature that makes the app more fun, but I cannot possibly imagine that people actually rely on stickers to communicate. Maybe you mean something different and I'm misunderstanding you?

I use some of them to communicate moods, or recurring ideas that are bothersome to enunciate over text.

E.g. these:

https://stickers.acidodivertido.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/...

Re: Technology preview: Private contact discovery for Signal

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Post by dharness »

thinkloop wrote: post #52
mintplant wrote: post #36

In case someone from Open WhisperSystems is reading: please add stickers. Seriously, I know so many people who are on Telegram just because of its sticker system and won't consider anything without that feature. This comes up again and again in online discussions where Signal is mentioned, and it hurts to see all the care and effort the OWS team has put into providing real security rejected out of hand because of it.…

In case someone from Open WhisperSystems is reading: please do NOT add stickers and junk to your clean and pretty system. I know a lot of people that would leave the service if it turned into WeChat (including me). Stick to the fundamental engineering of privacy as you are doing, and forget the gimmicks.

Couldn't you just not send any stickers?

Re: Technology preview: Private contact discovery for Signal

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Post by indiv0 »

cvwright wrote: post #94
kuschku wrote: post #38

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Well, it is a major step – but Moxie always sells his solutions, even if they’re just a puppy, as solutions for world hunger. As I mentioned, advertising with Snowden leads to a promise that Signal can not fulfill. Not even with this. But, you know, there is already a solution for all the issues here: Don’t use phone numbers, use usernames! As it turns out, that is far more private and secure.

First, you're not wrong about Signal being insufficient against nation state adversaries. The Grugq has a nice talk about opsec that I can't seem to find atm. He sums up the issues with Signal nicely in a Medium article. [1] That said, this particular development is a lot more than a puppy. It's at least a full grown, happy, friendly Golden Retriever who's already house trained and knows how to fetch your slippers. T…

Are you by any chance referring to this [0] talk?

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XaYdCdwiWU

Re: Technology preview: Private contact discovery for Signal

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Post by ryanlol »

mcny wrote: post #100
orbifold wrote: post #68

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In my opinion the signal ios client is significantly less polished than the telegram client. I could convince my girlfriend to switch to telegram, after she found signal to be intolerable on her android device as well.

> In my opinion the signal ios client is significantly less polished than the telegram client. I could convince my girlfriend to switch to telegram, after she found signal to be intolerable on her android device as well. My reaction is the opposite. I love the signal iOS app because it doesn't try to do SMS. It lets you enter the code which is great if I want to use a Google Voice number instead of a carrier number (…

How much do you use it? I sometimes do 1000+ messages a day and find that it's constantly breaking on me.

Re: Technology preview: Private contact discovery for Signal

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Post by caf »

xyzzyz wrote: post #89
teraflop wrote: post #42

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If I'm reading the documentation [1][2] correctly, you're overselling the security. Verifying an SGX attestation requires trusting not only the integrity of the per-processor secret keys, but the honesty of an Intel-provided online verification API. The API allows you to POST an attestation report to Intel's verification web service, and get back a response saying "OK" or "not OK". You can use TLS to verify that the…

Of course the Intel could lie to you, but Intel is already in the TCB. If you don't trust Intel to correctly verify the attestation report, you probably never trusted any kind of SGX security guarantees in the first place, as they also depend on you trusting Intel to do the thing they claim to do.

There's certainly a difference of degree between, on the one hand, distributing to every customer hardware that doesn't do what they say it does, and on the other, providing a limited number of false attestations of a particular emulation of the SGX hardware.

Re: Technology preview: Private contact discovery for Signal

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Post by skybrian »

pas wrote: post #91
tuxxy wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not criticizing you when you say that you need stickers, but please help me understand: how do you rely on stickers to communicate? I can understand them being a nice UI/UX feature that makes the app more fun, but I cannot possibly imagine that people actually rely on stickers to communicate. Maybe you mean something different and I'm misunderstanding you?

To succinctly convey emotions, opinions, viewpoints, "feels". To simply have a non-verbal vocabulary, to have a different quality to certain parts of the communication, to signify a different quality of seriousness/playfulness/feeling. It's the new emoticon. :-)

I'm curious, are they used anything like memes that you can easily send more than once?

Re: Technology preview: Private contact discovery for Signal

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Post by synaesthesisx »

pas wrote: post #91
tuxxy wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not criticizing you when you say that you need stickers, but please help me understand: how do you rely on stickers to communicate? I can understand them being a nice UI/UX feature that makes the app more fun, but I cannot possibly imagine that people actually rely on stickers to communicate. Maybe you mean something different and I'm misunderstanding you?

To succinctly convey emotions, opinions, viewpoints, "feels". To simply have a non-verbal vocabulary, to have a different quality to certain parts of the communication, to signify a different quality of seriousness/playfulness/feeling. It's the new emoticon. :-)

The only thing I could see that would potentially top this would be talking animated emoji....The feces one comes to mind specifically
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