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Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by SirensOfTitan »

shmerl wrote: post #326

Just updated my Firefox beta to 57. A few observations: 1. It does feel snappier. 2. Tabs UI looks ugly. Bigger elements than older design, more bulky. Sharp rectangular shapes of each tab UI element are standing out. It looks like a touchscreen UI to me, and it's wasteful on a desktop. 3. It also completely disabled all common add-ons like Adblock Plus and Stylish. That's a BIG problem. Looks like Adblock Plus has a…

Why do you use Adblock Plus over uBlock Origin? uBlock Origin has a better memory footprint and no ties to the advertising industry. It also has a stable WebExtension for use in 57+.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by gciruelos »

kosi28 wrote: post #198
foolfoolz wrote: post #61

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I never thought I'd say this but the 2 fastest bowsers on my computer are Firefox and Edge

Well that's because Chrome is busy doing random crap like this in the background - chrome://site-engagement/

every browser needs to have some counter like that if it wants to suggest pages when you open a new tab or something like that.

i think it's cool that you can see the actual ranking.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by shmerl »

SirensOfTitan wrote: post #331
shmerl wrote: post #326

Just updated my Firefox beta to 57. A few observations: 1. It does feel snappier. 2. Tabs UI looks ugly. Bigger elements than older design, more bulky. Sharp rectangular shapes of each tab UI element are standing out. It looks like a touchscreen UI to me, and it's wasteful on a desktop. 3. It also completely disabled all common add-ons like Adblock Plus and Stylish. That's a BIG problem. Looks like Adblock Plus has a…

Why do you use Adblock Plus over uBlock Origin? uBlock Origin has a better memory footprint and no ties to the advertising industry. It also has a stable WebExtension for use in 57+.

Is uBlock Origin functionally similar? I'm using a number of custom filters in AdBlock Plus.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by shmerl »

boxama wrote: post #329
shmerl wrote: post #326

Just updated my Firefox beta to 57. A few observations: 1. It does feel snappier. 2. Tabs UI looks ugly. Bigger elements than older design, more bulky. Sharp rectangular shapes of each tab UI element are standing out. It looks like a touchscreen UI to me, and it's wasteful on a desktop. 3. It also completely disabled all common add-ons like Adblock Plus and Stylish. That's a BIG problem. Looks like Adblock Plus has a…

2: Note you can select a smaller variant of all (default?) themes. Menu > Customise > Bottom left > compact. 3: There's quite a few alternative add-ons I've found thus far - uBlock Origin and Stylus. Sadly I was using Dark Background Light Text whixh has a webext port only in progress.

Thanks! Compact made it better, similar to how it was before.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by fgonzag »

sf_rob wrote: post #173
gilrain wrote: post #167

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Just as an aside, I used LastPass for a long time, and held on in discomfort for a while after their acquisition, but their inability to keep their Firefox plugin updated or even working finally convinced me to switch to 1Password. I couldn't be happier, and their Firefox extension is modern and well-done!

LastPass has announced that they will have their extension updated by the time 57 hits release. I'm not sure it's fair to expect them to have something for Beta even if their competitors do.

If you use firefox beta then it's fair to look for a product that supports your use case.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by staticassertion »

ko27 wrote: post #293
staticassertion wrote: post #222

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> why would it make people switch back to FF? because it's 1% faster than chrome? General responsiveness is definitely something I consider when choosing any tool. 1%? I don't think that's a real number. It can be much faster, especially since this is just one of many-to-come improvements. When you have lots of tabs open, lots of extensions, etc, pages can actually be quite slow to render. As webpages become more com…

> 1%? I don't think that's a real number. It can be much faster, especially since this is just one of many-to-come improvements. I am getting 73 in Speedometer 2 on Chrome Canary vs 66 Mozilla is touting here. Also as shown in their own video, Chrome loads faster on some pages. So FF might actually be slower. It's definitely not noticeably faster than Chrome. > Well, performance is one reason. Security could easily b…

> So FF might actually be slower. It's definitely not noticeably faster than Chrome.

Yep, on some pages, on some benchmarks, it can go either way. I think this more brings Firefox to a competitive place, and shows the potential for the project Quantum - there's much more to come, webrender in particular.

> Both of those things can be counted in Chrome's favor as well.

Totally. Whether one browser is more secure than another is a complicated topic.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by k__ »

signal11 wrote: post #325
k__ wrote: post #139

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I installed that nightly and it really feels fast and modern. They even got rid of that search bar, haha. Only fonts and the scroll bars seem a bit old school compared to Chrome. Also, WhatsApp Web keeps logging me out.

> fonts Chrome has a bunch of bugs related to font-rendering on Windows, e.g. https://crbug.com/414307 . I'm not sure why switching to DirectWrite didn't just fix these bugs, but subjectively appearance-wise on Windows, Firefox > Edge > Chrome.

okay.

To me it seemed like the input font here on HN could need a bit more hinting in FF.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by childintime »

I didn't try the new Firefox yet, but now the only thing possibly holding it back are its confusing menus and dialogs:

- we have the artificial distinction between the hamburger menu, the traditional menu and several (Chrome-like) settings pages

- yet, obviously, the New Page could function as the entry point to all of Firefox features: history, favorites, settings, customization, extensions. This would remove all clutter from the chrome, would be more discoverable, and would be easily touch compatible.

- dialogs, really, who want out of window dialogs? If you start with the New Page, there is a full page to work with, and this also lets the user use Ctrl+F to search for any hard to spot options. It is also mobile friendly.

And lastly, every single time I download a .exe Firefox asks me what I want to do with it (I save it every time) and every time I click the checkbox that says "Do this every time". But the dialog nevertheless keeps returning, with this useless checkbox enabled, suggesting I didn't click it last time. Very irritating.

So I hope the new UI improves things, there's quite a lot to gain.

Despite these gripes, it is my default browser, and I'm increasingly impressed by the incredible work being done.

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