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Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by willtim »

low_battery wrote: post #255
Sylos wrote: post #237

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As Mr. Patrick Walton over there said, Mozilla is still building up the exact, minimal file-system permissions. So, yes, in that way it is still not yet on quite the same level as Chrome. In terms of security architecture, there is to my knowledge only one bigger difference left and you can change that, if you want. The difference is that Chrome will spawn a new process for every new tab (unless the webpage in it is…

I guess as long as it is not default behavior it will stay as a weakness then? I am not sure if it is worth to exchange it for memory or performance gain. Also is using thread per tab approach more susceptible to memory leaks, resource sharing issues or OS scheduling shenanigans than process per tab approach? You close the tab, the process is dead and resources are mostly guaranteed to returned. My knowledge of moder…

Perhaps that now they are using Rust instead of C++, leaks and memory corruption should be much less of an issue.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by dr_zoidberg »

k__ wrote: post #139
ghoshbishakh wrote: post #113

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Just try firefox nightly 58.0a1 ! Firefox nightly is my default browser nowadays. I love the modern UI.

I installed that nightly and it really feels fast and modern. They even got rid of that search bar, haha. Only fonts and the scroll bars seem a bit old school compared to Chrome. Also, WhatsApp Web keeps logging me out.

> They even got rid of that search bar, haha.

It's actually configurable by the user. I like having it on the side, so I added it back.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by willtim »

callahad wrote: post #318
willtim wrote: post #311

Are there any plans to have Firefox throttle background tabs? This is one feature from Chrome that is currently stopping me from switching. It's very useful for laptops with lots of open tabs. The current rate of progress is definitely impressive though.

Yes. Much of that work began landing in Firefox 55, and there's more to come. We also more aggressively throttle scripts that are sourced from domains on our tracking protection blacklist, so tracking / advertising scripts won't be able to ruin your experience.

Thank you and keep up the excellent work! I look forward to trying it out (and at some point switching).

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by xemoka »

gogoengie wrote: post #254
xemoka wrote: post #201

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There's also Saka Key [ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/saka-key/ ] that has an vim keybindings mode. It looks like currently Vimium-FF cannot open new tabs...

Could you be more specific? I don't believe this is a known issue. If you're experiencing this behavior, you may want to report it: https://github.com/philc/vimium/issues Personally, I'm running Firefox 55.0.3 with `vimium-ff` 1.6.0 (current build on addons.mozilla.org), and the `t` keybinding opens new tabs just like `Ctrl-t`. Command repetition also works (eg, `5t`).

Sorry, new tabs from links in background, using 'F'. Or at least with yesterday's version on ff58.0a1

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by signal11 »

k__ wrote: post #139
ghoshbishakh wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just try firefox nightly 58.0a1 ! Firefox nightly is my default browser nowadays. I love the modern UI.

I installed that nightly and it really feels fast and modern. They even got rid of that search bar, haha. Only fonts and the scroll bars seem a bit old school compared to Chrome. Also, WhatsApp Web keeps logging me out.

> fonts

Chrome has a bunch of bugs related to font-rendering on Windows, e.g. https://crbug.com/414307. I'm not sure why switching to DirectWrite didn't just fix these bugs, but subjectively appearance-wise on Windows, Firefox > Edge > Chrome.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by shmerl »

Just updated my Firefox beta to 57. A few observations:

1. It does feel snappier.

2. Tabs UI looks ugly. Bigger elements than older design, more bulky. Sharp rectangular shapes of each tab UI element are standing out. It looks like a touchscreen UI to me, and it's wasteful on a desktop.

3. It also completely disabled all common add-ons like Adblock Plus and Stylish. That's a BIG problem. Looks like Adblock Plus has a compatible beta version at least.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by Myrmornis »

kuschku wrote: post #307
Myrmornis wrote: post #227

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This documentation still makes it sound very clunky and inconvenient compared to chrome: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Multiple_profile... > You cannot change the profile while Firefox is running. Although it is possible in some cases to have multiple instances of Firefox running in different profiles, to avoid confusion, you should first exit/quit/terminate all running instances of Firefox, FirefoxDeve…

That’s a different thing than I’m describing. Try out the new ContainerTabs ;)

Cool! I think. For the record:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers-experiment

Do you know if it's possible to make ctrl-t (new tab) open a new tab in the same profile? If I'm in profile A, I always want new tabs to have the same profile; I don't want to have to specify it.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by M2Ys4U »

jhasse wrote: post #316
482794793792894 wrote: post #264

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Well, it's not. It's now also heavily competing for fastest browser and will continue to be the most extensible browser, even if it is sacrificing things there.

> It's now also heavily competing for fastest browser It isn't though, as Chrome still wins in some benchmarks.

That doesn't mean they're not competing...

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by boxama »

shmerl wrote: post #326

Just updated my Firefox beta to 57. A few observations: 1. It does feel snappier. 2. Tabs UI looks ugly. Bigger elements than older design, more bulky. Sharp rectangular shapes of each tab UI element are standing out. It looks like a touchscreen UI to me, and it's wasteful on a desktop. 3. It also completely disabled all common add-ons like Adblock Plus and Stylish. That's a BIG problem. Looks like Adblock Plus has a…

2: Note you can select a smaller variant of all (default?) themes. Menu > Customise > Bottom left > compact.

3: There's quite a few alternative add-ons I've found thus far - uBlock Origin and Stylus. Sadly I was using Dark Background Light Text whixh has a webext port only in progress.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by fgonzag »

k__ wrote: post #62
DiabloD3 wrote: post #44

As someone that jumped ship from how slow Chrome has gotten and went to Nightly /w Stylo and (CPU threads - 1) e10s processes enabled about 2 monthsish ago... Holy damn Firefox is actually fast. Fair comparison, both having Pocket, uBlock, Evernote, OneNote, Pushbullet, and Bitwarden; neither of them having an extension the other doesn't. Above described Firefox Nightly config vs Chrome Dev. Test machines are a works…

I switched to Chrome years ago and every time I try Firefox it feels sluggish, so I don't switch back. Last time was a week ago :\

Was it nightly? I was in the same boat with the standard release, everytime I tried it it felt sluggish. Then I tried nightly and all I can say is wow, no.other browser is as snappy as FF nightly
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