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Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by RichieAHB »

driverdan wrote: post #84
DiabloD3 wrote: post #44

As someone that jumped ship from how slow Chrome has gotten and went to Nightly /w Stylo and (CPU threads - 1) e10s processes enabled about 2 monthsish ago... Holy damn Firefox is actually fast. Fair comparison, both having Pocket, uBlock, Evernote, OneNote, Pushbullet, and Bitwarden; neither of them having an extension the other doesn't. Above described Firefox Nightly config vs Chrome Dev. Test machines are a works…

I'd like to see the same comparison on a Mac. The Windows version of Firefox has been close to Chrome performance for a while. The Mac version has been significantly slower.

Just ran the tests on my Macbook Pro (mid 2012) running High Sierra:

  Safari TP 11.1 Release 40  - 62.71
  Chrome Canary 63.0.3221.0  - 55.45
  Firefox Dev Edition 57.0b3 - 44.17
Not sure whether this would be borne out on later Macs but this seems to confirm my anecdotal experience on my Mac in the last few days, even since 57 came out.

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Post by kpwags »

Vinnl wrote: post #206
kpwags wrote: post #172

I made the switch from Chrome to Firefox a couple of months ago primarily because of the open source and privacy aspects. I have to say I was impressed by the speed improvements, and since I started using Firefox Nightly a couple months ago, it's gotten even faster. Only complaint is that I don't have a working LastPass plugin yet, though they claim they'll have it released by the time v57 is finalized. I'd recommend…

Haha, it sounds like you meant "from Chrome to Firefox" :)

Oops, yes.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by Vinnl »

Myrmornis wrote: post #158

One thing that stops me switching from Chrome is the multiple profiles and easy profile switching in Chrome. I have work and personal profiles and then other profiles for different roles I use in testing web applications. Last time I checked it wasn't at all convenient to do this in Firefox.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

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Post by staticassertion »

kosi28 wrote: post #198
foolfoolz wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never thought I'd say this but the 2 fastest bowsers on my computer are Firefox and Edge

Well that's because Chrome is busy doing random crap like this in the background - chrome://site-engagement/

I really doubt that that feature has any performance impact. It looks like a bunch of counters.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by magnat »

Brakenshire wrote: post #169
magnat wrote: post #52

> Firefox Quantum enhances Firefox’s integration with Pocket, the read-it-later app that Mozilla acquired last year. When you open a new tab, you’ll see currently trending web pages recommended by Pocket users so you won’t miss out on what’s hot online, as well as your top sites. That doesn't sound good. What are the reasons for having bloatware bundled in instead releasing them as separate add-on or installation opt…

Pocket is now owned by Mozilla, and is going to be open sourced. What separates that from any other functionality built into the browser, for instance Firefox Sync or Autocomplete?

Sync, Pocket, Dev tools, Screenshots etc are not required to display and interact with HTML pages. They are useful and it's nice they exist, but I don't see a reason to have them installed if I don't need them - just as I don't install every package available in OS just in case I'll need later it.

Even if they don't use resources when not being actively used (no way to test since there is no way to remove them), they increase attack surface and clutter UI.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by staticassertion »

gilrain wrote: post #167
imple wrote: post #88

I can throw my hat into the ring and attest to just how great 57 is. I can remember the Australis update coming out and receiving a mixed reaction, but I can't see this update receiving anything but praise. If you've been on Chrome for a while I'd definitely encourage you to try it out. As a developer one small thing that's irked me is the recent removal of the ability for the dev tools to render html responses. Ther…

Just as an aside, I used LastPass for a long time, and held on in discomfort for a while after their acquisition, but their inability to keep their Firefox plugin updated or even working finally convinced me to switch to 1Password. I couldn't be happier, and their Firefox extension is modern and well-done!

Lots of extensions are waiting for the stable release before updating.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by joosters »

dalfonso wrote: post #193
joosters wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what you mean? There's a settings->Lock options which has choices from 'immediately, [various times], on restart, and never'. Or do you mean something like 'you must re-enter your master password for particular sites'?

Yes, 'you must re-enter your master password for particular sites'. I liked turning that option on for any e-commerce or highly sensitive sites.

Yeah, no sign of that kind of feature, unfortunately.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by milankragujevic »

typon wrote: post #176
DiabloD3 wrote: post #44

As someone that jumped ship from how slow Chrome has gotten and went to Nightly /w Stylo and (CPU threads - 1) e10s processes enabled about 2 monthsish ago... Holy damn Firefox is actually fast. Fair comparison, both having Pocket, uBlock, Evernote, OneNote, Pushbullet, and Bitwarden; neither of them having an extension the other doesn't. Above described Firefox Nightly config vs Chrome Dev. Test machines are a works…

And here I am just enjoying my Opera. Built-in ad blocker, built-in WhatsApp Web, great UI, ultra fast, supports all modern web technologies.

Opera is just rebranded Chrome, with some badly-advertised "VPN" slapped on top of it, a shadow of it's former self (the Presto version).

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by burntchicken »

Firefox 57 is quite impressive in terms of speed and the fancy new animations, but unfortunately downgraded back to 56 because none of the extensions I use have WebExtension variants for some reason? May look for alternatives at some point but its so sad to see extensions like "Strict Popup Blocker" go because of lacking API support. Really hope Firefox can work things out with these extension developers in due time because this extension is a must-have for me.
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