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Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#181

One thing that stops me switching from Chrome is the multiple profiles and easy profile switching in Chrome. I have work and personal profiles and then other profiles for different roles I use in testing web applications. Last time I checked it wasn't at all convenient to do this in Firefox.

Actually, you can on Firefox even use different profiles per tab since a few releases ago.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#182
post #168

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Switch to Bitwarden, already has a WebExtension extension. Lastpass is basically dead ever since LogMeIn proved they don't care about security of the vault.

Dead to me ever since they decided to raise the price with 100% for no reason (from consumer PoV) whatsoever. Classic bait & switch. Is there an easy way to convert your current Lastpass database to Bitwarden?

Bitwarden can import Lastpass-made CSV exports (plus exports from literally everyone).

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#183

This a most pointless decision. making firefox fast at the expense of the extensions. why would it make people switch back to FF? because it's 1% faster than chrome? come on, it's 2k17 and few care about that. Edge might be faster than both and people still would not use it. FF had its selling point to power users which is why i'm currently browsing from ff. Now there is no reason at all to use it. I guess there is n…

When our admins actually care to migrate to java webstart and I can drop java plugin and firefox esr, I'll probably move to chrome, because selenium works better with chromedriver for me.

And yeah, I don't care much about which one loads page 0.5 secs faster - I used to download porn on a modem:) https://xkcd.com/598/

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#184

As someone that jumped ship from how slow Chrome has gotten and went to Nightly /w Stylo and (CPU threads - 1) e10s processes enabled about 2 monthsish ago... Holy damn Firefox is actually fast. Fair comparison, both having Pocket, uBlock, Evernote, OneNote, Pushbullet, and Bitwarden; neither of them having an extension the other doesn't. Above described Firefox Nightly config vs Chrome Dev. Test machines are a works…

I used Firefox Focus on my Pixel for a few weeks and was blown away by how fast it was. The mobile web went from borderline unusable to borderline pleasant with it, I imagine largely due to its tracking and limited ad blocking. Sadly, I migrated back to Chrome because anything that needs to work with Google login or opening an app simply doesn't work. This causes issues with a lot of things I use. I feel like I'm bei…

I was blown away by Firefox Focus as well. I ended up making it the default browser, so its used when I read an article on HackerNews, Reddit, Twitter, etc. But when I need the "logged in" experience - autofill passwords, bookmarks, cookies, etc. - I launch Chrome. Best of both worlds!

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Switch to Bitwarden, already has a WebExtension extension. Lastpass is basically dead ever since LogMeIn proved they don't care about security of the vault.

Hmm. Yeah I’ve been wondering about lastpass for a little while now. Is there a comparison of these tools that you’d recommend?

There is no good comparison website I'm aware of, but Bitwarden ticks every box Lastpass does, and is already working on ticking boxes Lastpass doesn't.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#186

This a most pointless decision. making firefox fast at the expense of the extensions. why would it make people switch back to FF? because it's 1% faster than chrome? come on, it's 2k17 and few care about that. Edge might be faster than both and people still would not use it. FF had its selling point to power users which is why i'm currently browsing from ff. Now there is no reason at all to use it. I guess there is n…

The two issues are separate -- they didn't change the extensions system to make Firefox fast, they changed the extensions system because the old extensions system was a security nightmare.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#187
post #54

That video in the post seems to show Chrome is still significantly faster in half of the tests shown there. How is that possible? From what Servo was initially promising (even 3-4x the speed of old Firefox), it didn't look like Chrome would come close either. Did they make that many compromises when "porting parts from Servo" to Gecko? What's hurting Firefox's performance so much that even after implementing Electrol…

Browser performance is not a single dimension. Nobody said Servo was going to be 3x-4x faster than (insert engine here) on every possible benchmark anyone could ever come up with. Rather, it's fast on the areas it focuses on.

In case it wasn't clear, I was talking about these slides, which Mozilla itself showed a while ago:

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgzNDA

But, as others have said, we may be getting a more drastic increase in performance when the new rendering engine lands, too. I thought this included the new rendering engine, which is why I felt it was quite disappointing compared to those slides we saw before. But if it's only the CSS engine that makes its about twice as fast, that's quite a nice boost. Hopefully the new rendering engine will give it another 2x (at least on quad-core+ machines).

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#188

Is the idea here that they'll just keep switching out pieces written in C++ for Rust until all of Firefox is Rust, rather than launching a new product?

Not really. Parts of Firefox like Tracemonkey (or whatever they call the js engine now) aren't going to be rewritten because it would take a decade to do. I expect that Firefox will always be built more like a C++ project with Rust components than the other way.

That said "project quantum" is about improving the browser which applies to all of the code not just the Rust parts.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#189

This a most pointless decision. making firefox fast at the expense of the extensions. why would it make people switch back to FF? because it's 1% faster than chrome? come on, it's 2k17 and few care about that. Edge might be faster than both and people still would not use it. FF had its selling point to power users which is why i'm currently browsing from ff. Now there is no reason at all to use it. I guess there is n…

There is always a few of these comments per Firefox 57 post. Always someone lamenting the days of yore, and talking about how no one will ever use Firefox again. It's not making a new point, and the other comments are usually speaking of how great it's been. People get super emotional when things change.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#190
post #16

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Is Tree Style Tab working on it? I've disabled updates until further notice.

Tree Style Tab is the killer feature for me and some of my scientist coworkers. If this disappears or doesn’t work, I’ll probably use Chrome.

Just in case you missed if above, there is a preview version of Tree Style Tab that's compatible with Firefox 57.

Edit: Actually, not a preview versions. TST just published an update and now it works on Firefox 57: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

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