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Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by sf_rob »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #150
DiabloD3 wrote: post #44

As someone that jumped ship from how slow Chrome has gotten and went to Nightly /w Stylo and (CPU threads - 1) e10s processes enabled about 2 monthsish ago... Holy damn Firefox is actually fast. Fair comparison, both having Pocket, uBlock, Evernote, OneNote, Pushbullet, and Bitwarden; neither of them having an extension the other doesn't. Above described Firefox Nightly config vs Chrome Dev. Test machines are a works…

I used Firefox Focus on my Pixel for a few weeks and was blown away by how fast it was. The mobile web went from borderline unusable to borderline pleasant with it, I imagine largely due to its tracking and limited ad blocking. Sadly, I migrated back to Chrome because anything that needs to work with Google login or opening an app simply doesn't work. This causes issues with a lot of things I use. I feel like I'm bei…

It's not as fast as Focus, but if you want an alternative to Chrome Firefox for Android should work better with Google Apps that are (probably) broken due to Focus's anti-tracking features. It is based on the same rendering engine as desktop and should benefit from many of the future speed improvements of Firefox 57.

On Android Chrome is arguably better if you want Google account integration or raw speed, but Firefox for Android has a more traditional UI, extensions, and is fast enough for most of my browsing.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by gilrain »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #150
DiabloD3 wrote: post #44

As someone that jumped ship from how slow Chrome has gotten and went to Nightly /w Stylo and (CPU threads - 1) e10s processes enabled about 2 monthsish ago... Holy damn Firefox is actually fast. Fair comparison, both having Pocket, uBlock, Evernote, OneNote, Pushbullet, and Bitwarden; neither of them having an extension the other doesn't. Above described Firefox Nightly config vs Chrome Dev. Test machines are a works…

I used Firefox Focus on my Pixel for a few weeks and was blown away by how fast it was. The mobile web went from borderline unusable to borderline pleasant with it, I imagine largely due to its tracking and limited ad blocking. Sadly, I migrated back to Chrome because anything that needs to work with Google login or opening an app simply doesn't work. This causes issues with a lot of things I use. I feel like I'm bei…

I haven't had any issues using Firefox for Android... Firefox Focus is not a general purpose browser, so some issues are probably expected. Try Firefox for Android and install uBlock, or any of your other favorite desktop extensions!

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

I've been extremely happy with Firefox's recent transformation. I was using Edge for a while as my primary browser, because it was definitively the fastest and it was worth tolerating a couple of bugs in exchange. But I'd put Firefox now as being more or less as performant, and that's before Quantum.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by pcwalton »

low_battery wrote: post #154
DiabloD3 wrote: post #44

As someone that jumped ship from how slow Chrome has gotten and went to Nightly /w Stylo and (CPU threads - 1) e10s processes enabled about 2 monthsish ago... Holy damn Firefox is actually fast. Fair comparison, both having Pocket, uBlock, Evernote, OneNote, Pushbullet, and Bitwarden; neither of them having an extension the other doesn't. Above described Firefox Nightly config vs Chrome Dev. Test machines are a works…

Unfortunately, as long as Firefox security infrastructure does not match Chrome, I can not use it. Note that errors like use-after-free and buffer overflows are marked as Critical (run arbitrary code on computer) for Firefox, but marked as High (execute code in the context of, or otherwise impersonate other origins.) for Chrome because of sandboxing. Firefox: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabiliti…

Firefox sandboxing does not use Rust. Servo sandboxing (work in progress) does.

It's not accurate to say that Firefox has no sandbox. Sandboxing work has been rolling out for many months now, and later versions have increasingly restrictive sandboxes. You can see the current status per version here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Sandbox#Current_Status

Hardening the sandbox is a constant work in progress, but it's not as simple as "compromise of browser engine automatically means arbitrary code execution as running user" any longer.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by timwaagh »

This a most pointless decision. making firefox fast at the expense of the extensions.

why would it make people switch back to FF? because it's 1% faster than chrome? come on, it's 2k17 and few care about that. Edge might be faster than both and people still would not use it. FF had its selling point to power users which is why i'm currently browsing from ff.

Now there is no reason at all to use it. I guess there is no reason not to use it either however i think people will go with the bigger brand name. Maybe power users will switch to some more niche browser. Maybe everyone will go to chrome.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by hafta »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #22

Firefox, I love you, but you and my 15" rMBP (with 4k Dell external monitor) simply don't get along: https://i.imgur.com/rByz7zS.png I don't what causes this, but in the last 2 years it's gotten worse and with Quantum the CPU usage is even higher. Chrome and Safari don't have this issue.

If you have the time, please file a bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ it's pretty painless. We definitely care about Firefox on Mac. Thanks.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by gilrain »

imple wrote: post #88

I can throw my hat into the ring and attest to just how great 57 is. I can remember the Australis update coming out and receiving a mixed reaction, but I can't see this update receiving anything but praise. If you've been on Chrome for a while I'd definitely encourage you to try it out. As a developer one small thing that's irked me is the recent removal of the ability for the dev tools to render html responses. Ther…

Just as an aside, I used LastPass for a long time, and held on in discomfort for a while after their acquisition, but their inability to keep their Firefox plugin updated or even working finally convinced me to switch to 1Password. I couldn't be happier, and their Firefox extension is modern and well-done!

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by Fnoord »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #109
bluejekyll wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nightly has been amazing. I’m just waiting on LastPass before I switch full time.

Switch to Bitwarden, already has a WebExtension extension. Lastpass is basically dead ever since LogMeIn proved they don't care about security of the vault.

Dead to me ever since they decided to raise the price with 100% for no reason (from consumer PoV) whatsoever. Classic bait & switch.

Is there an easy way to convert your current Lastpass database to Bitwarden?

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by Brakenshire »

magnat wrote: post #52

> Firefox Quantum enhances Firefox’s integration with Pocket, the read-it-later app that Mozilla acquired last year. When you open a new tab, you’ll see currently trending web pages recommended by Pocket users so you won’t miss out on what’s hot online, as well as your top sites. That doesn't sound good. What are the reasons for having bloatware bundled in instead releasing them as separate add-on or installation opt…

Pocket is now owned by Mozilla, and is going to be open sourced. What separates that from any other functionality built into the browser, for instance Firefox Sync or Autocomplete?

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by pimeys »

k__ wrote: post #139
ghoshbishakh wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just try firefox nightly 58.0a1 ! Firefox nightly is my default browser nowadays. I love the modern UI.

I installed that nightly and it really feels fast and modern. They even got rid of that search bar, haha. Only fonts and the scroll bars seem a bit old school compared to Chrome. Also, WhatsApp Web keeps logging me out.

> Also, WhatsApp Web keeps logging me out.

This is an issue on my Arch Linux laptop, but not at work using Ubuntu. Both run Firefox nightly. Been going nuts with this issue!

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