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Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by craftyguy »

magnat wrote: post #52

> Firefox Quantum enhances Firefox’s integration with Pocket, the read-it-later app that Mozilla acquired last year. When you open a new tab, you’ll see currently trending web pages recommended by Pocket users so you won’t miss out on what’s hot online, as well as your top sites. That doesn't sound good. What are the reasons for having bloatware bundled in instead releasing them as separate add-on or installation opt…

In addition, there's still no simple way to kill pocket without having to dive into about:config...

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by Vinnl »

doktrin wrote: post #102
Vinnl wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vimperator, unfortunately, appears to be one of the few extensions that can never be fully ported, as it made use of API's that implied a security risk.

Very interesting, that does appear to be the case - likewise for VimFx. From what I gather, the go-to Vim plugin after this year will be Vimium (which I currently use on Chrome), although it hasn't yet been ported to FF 57.

Yes, but in VimFx's case it's more a matter of the developer not feeling like it considering Vimium is available, which for me has been a drop-in replacement of VimFx. I just assumed that as you mentioned Vimperator, you wanted the complete, somewhat more invasive, experience.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by snaky »

Yoric wrote: post #37
reikonomusha wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tree Style Tab is the killer feature for me and some of my scientist coworkers. If this disappears or doesn’t work, I’ll probably use Chrome.

Which would be a shame, now that Firefox is (IMHO) better than Chrome, once again :)

Are you kidding? It's like "Blackberry is better than iPhone once again, finally losing the keyboard".

The main and only distinctive feature of Firefox was programmability (XUL, XPCOM), and now it's gone. There are forks like PaleMoon and Waterfox though but for how long.

Firefox had to take that app-platform niche (thanks to XUL, XPCOM) that now occupies Electron, but failed on that chasing after Chrome.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by hashkb »

doktrin wrote: post #68

Wow, it really is blazing fast, and just at a glance I like what they're doing with the dev tools. Unfortunately... > Vimperator : "This add-on is not compatible with your version of Firefox." Ouch. Guess I might need to wait a bit to make this my daily driver. All in all, though, I have to say I'm really glad to see Firefox is still solidly in this race - and with a kick ass and quite possibly superior product to bo…

Vimium port for FF is acceptable.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by k__ »

gue5t wrote: post #107
bwat49 wrote: post #99

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57 really is a huge improvement, I can no longer feel any difference in responsiveness between firefox and chrome. In some ways I think firefox has actually surpassed chrome (e.g. on my xps 13 touchpad scrolling is much more responsive/smoother in firefox)

Re: touchpad scrolling, make sure you disable "smooth" (animated) scrolling and enable precise scrolling; on Linux this requires setting MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1 in the environment.

Nice, thanks!

Everything feels 10 times faster without smooth scrolling, while I have to say that the nightly already felt blazing fast _with_ smooth scrolling, haha.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by hashkb »

doktrin wrote: post #102
Vinnl wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vimperator, unfortunately, appears to be one of the few extensions that can never be fully ported, as it made use of API's that implied a security risk.

Very interesting, that does appear to be the case - likewise for VimFx. From what I gather, the go-to Vim plugin after this year will be Vimium (which I currently use on Chrome), although it hasn't yet been ported to FF 57.

I'm using vimium in nightly right now.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by madmax108 »

tapoxi wrote: post #122
driverdan wrote: post #84

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I'd like to see the same comparison on a Mac. The Windows version of Firefox has been close to Chrome performance for a while. The Mac version has been significantly slower.

I've been using Firefox Nightly (57) for a while on a 2013 MBP running Sierra. Firefox definitely feels significantly faster than it used to, and the new UI is great. But this comes at the cost of battery life. I moved back to Chrome because it was constantly chewing CPU.

+1 for the significantly improved performance on Firefox on OSX (I'm on a 2015 MBP), not just in the current 57 nightly, but since Firefox 55 came out.

Absolutely stunning improvement in performance!

Great work by team FFx! :D

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by drzaiusapelord »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #44

As someone that jumped ship from how slow Chrome has gotten and went to Nightly /w Stylo and (CPU threads - 1) e10s processes enabled about 2 monthsish ago... Holy damn Firefox is actually fast. Fair comparison, both having Pocket, uBlock, Evernote, OneNote, Pushbullet, and Bitwarden; neither of them having an extension the other doesn't. Above described Firefox Nightly config vs Chrome Dev. Test machines are a works…

I used Firefox Focus on my Pixel for a few weeks and was blown away by how fast it was. The mobile web went from borderline unusable to borderline pleasant with it, I imagine largely due to its tracking and limited ad blocking. Sadly, I migrated back to Chrome because anything that needs to work with Google login or opening an app simply doesn't work. This causes issues with a lot of things I use.

I feel like I'm being ActiveX'd into using Chrome now which is very non-Googly. Not sure how feasible it is to use a different mobile browser until Mozilla and Google work together to make sure they're all on the same API page on Android. Ironically enough, Windows is far more open and friendly to competing browsers than Android.

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