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When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by nicktelford »

slamdance wrote: post #7
thestephen wrote: post #4

"Some 800 pages came back containing information such as my Facebook “likes”, my photos from Instagram (even after I deleted the associated account)" It's going to be interesting to see how Tinder tackles the 2018 EU General Data Protection Regulation in 2018 and how things will play out in courts and practice. For example, are you allowed to store information that I have chosen to unlink? Will Tinder have an easy wa…

I think worst case (best case?) scenario is that they will 'copy' the data they're not supposed to keep off to another country, maybe anonymize it but otherwise the data will still be there. Its too important - even in anonymized form. Its capable of helping sociologists, medical researchers, advertisers, etc... They don't need to know that "James. T. McLovin' of 123 Happy Lane, went on 15 dates and slept with 3 wome…

The country the data resides in is irrelevant. If the data is about an EU citizen, that's all that matters.

I believe the company in question would also need a legal entity in the EU in order for the EU to prosecute them, as I don't think you can take (e.g.) an American company to an EU court. IANAL though.

Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by slamdance »

nicktelford wrote: post #11
slamdance wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think worst case (best case?) scenario is that they will 'copy' the data they're not supposed to keep off to another country, maybe anonymize it but otherwise the data will still be there. Its too important - even in anonymized form. Its capable of helping sociologists, medical researchers, advertisers, etc... They don't need to know that "James. T. McLovin' of 123 Happy Lane, went on 15 dates and slept with 3 wome…

The country the data resides in is irrelevant. If the data is about an EU citizen, that's all that matters. I believe the company in question would also need a legal entity in the EU in order for the EU to prosecute them, as I don't think you can take (e.g.) an American company to an EU court. IANAL though.

eh. Maybe. If they copy the data to a 3rd party in America (i.e. sell the data a marketing company, for "research" purposes), then the EU can't really go after the marketing company. I'm not saying it's right. I don't see why they couldn't anonymize the data (morally or ethically). But, I don't own a marketing company.

Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by vanderZwan »

fny wrote: post #10

Wow--there's some pretty intense SEO in the slug for that URL: tinder-personal-data-dating-app-messages-hacked-sold

They're all keywords relating to the topics discussed in the article, aren't they?

I wouldn't be surprised if it was auto-generated from keywords that the author can assign to their article.

Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by vidarh »

nicktelford wrote: post #11
slamdance wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think worst case (best case?) scenario is that they will 'copy' the data they're not supposed to keep off to another country, maybe anonymize it but otherwise the data will still be there. Its too important - even in anonymized form. Its capable of helping sociologists, medical researchers, advertisers, etc... They don't need to know that "James. T. McLovin' of 123 Happy Lane, went on 15 dates and slept with 3 wome…

The country the data resides in is irrelevant. If the data is about an EU citizen, that's all that matters. I believe the company in question would also need a legal entity in the EU in order for the EU to prosecute them, as I don't think you can take (e.g.) an American company to an EU court. IANAL though.

You can take an American company to an EU court assuming the EU court has jurisdiction, and laws can specify that its jurisdiction should extend to actions taken outside the geographical area (I don't know if that is the case here).

Without a US court case they'd be dependent on assets or an income stream in the EU to be able to force payment of any fines, though.

Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by vidarh »

slamdance wrote: post #12
nicktelford wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The country the data resides in is irrelevant. If the data is about an EU citizen, that's all that matters. I believe the company in question would also need a legal entity in the EU in order for the EU to prosecute them, as I don't think you can take (e.g.) an American company to an EU court. IANAL though.

eh. Maybe. If they copy the data to a 3rd party in America (i.e. sell the data a marketing company, for "research" purposes), then the EU can't really go after the marketing company. I'm not saying it's right. I don't see why they couldn't anonymize the data (morally or ethically). But, I don't own a marketing company.

If a company based in the EU is transferring the data to a 3rd party in America without appropriate safeguards to ensure said data is treated in a way that complies with EU law, then the transfer itself is unlawful, and the EU can go after the company for that.

Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by dogma1138 »

thestephen wrote: post #4

"Some 800 pages came back containing information such as my Facebook “likes”, my photos from Instagram (even after I deleted the associated account)" It's going to be interesting to see how Tinder tackles the 2018 EU General Data Protection Regulation in 2018 and how things will play out in courts and practice. For example, are you allowed to store information that I have chosen to unlink? Will Tinder have an easy wa…

Considering that they've managed to gather all of the author's data in a short time they would fare pretty darn well, for most companies that is the hard part.

The GDPR isn't nearly as scary as people set it out to be, and it gives companies a huge amount of wiggle room.

Re: When I asked Tinder for my data, it sent me 800 pages of my deepest secrets

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Post by d33 »

dvhh wrote: post #9
imron wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only if you've got something to hide, right? /s

/"swipe right" ? To be fair, this article is a vulgarization of what "tech-savvy" internet user already know.

"/s" means "sarcasm"
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