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Re: Apple switches from Bing to Google for Siri web search on iOS and Mac Spotlight

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Post by [deleted] »

beaner wrote: post #7
lemoncucumber wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could almost see Apple buying DuckDuckGo, given that a) Apple cares about their users' privacy, and b) Apple cares about having control over the entire user experience. DuckDuckGo would fit right in with both of those core pieces of Apple (no pun intended). I don't think it'll actually happen, but it doesn't seem too far-fetched.

Apple doesn't care about it's users' privacy. It only ever started making a big deal about privacy when people started criticizing Google for hoarding too much personal info and using it to target ads, which people think is evil. Apple doesn't do these things (it's not Apple's business model), so they began heavily marketing "privacy" as something you'd get from them and not the competition. They make sort of okay at…

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Re: Apple switches from Bing to Google for Siri web search on iOS and Mac Spotlight

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Post by skbohra123 »

andy_ppp wrote: post #10
grzm wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$3 billion is the number in the article.

With the amount of data Apple has from Siri I’m constantly surprised they don’t at least have a stab at building a search engine, possibly one with very fine grained privacy/accuracy controls.

You have to understand that search engine is not a reflection of what people search. It's about searching the 'web'.

Re: Apple switches from Bing to Google for Siri web search on iOS and Mac Spotlight

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Post by dmead »

0xbear wrote: post #5
lemoncucumber wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could almost see Apple buying DuckDuckGo, given that a) Apple cares about their users' privacy, and b) Apple cares about having control over the entire user experience. DuckDuckGo would fit right in with both of those core pieces of Apple (no pun intended). I don't think it'll actually happen, but it doesn't seem too far-fetched.

That wouldn't make any sense given that DDG is thin UX veneer around Bing, and it doesn't maintain its own index.

is that true? i thought DDG predates bing?

Re: Apple switches from Bing to Google for Siri web search on iOS and Mac Spotlight

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Post by craftyguy »

lemoncucumber wrote: post #4
jakebasile wrote: post #2

I really wish they'd let me set Siri to search DuckDuckGo.

I could almost see Apple buying DuckDuckGo, given that a) Apple cares about their users' privacy, and b) Apple cares about having control over the entire user experience. DuckDuckGo would fit right in with both of those core pieces of Apple (no pun intended). I don't think it'll actually happen, but it doesn't seem too far-fetched.

> a) Apple cares about their users' privacy

Well, except for the whole switching-to-google thing..

Re: Apple switches from Bing to Google for Siri web search on iOS and Mac Spotlight

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Post by elaus »

andy_ppp wrote: post #10
grzm wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$3 billion is the number in the article.

With the amount of data Apple has from Siri I’m constantly surprised they don’t at least have a stab at building a search engine, possibly one with very fine grained privacy/accuracy controls.

I don't think Apple does "fine grained controls"

Re: Apple switches from Bing to Google for Siri web search on iOS and Mac Spotlight

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Post by 0xbear »

dmead wrote: post #14
0xbear wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That wouldn't make any sense given that DDG is thin UX veneer around Bing, and it doesn't maintain its own index.

is that true? i thought DDG predates bing?

I believe they initially used Google as their backend. Don't quote me on that though. One thing I know for sure is their search is not really provided by them.

Re: Apple switches from Bing to Google for Siri web search on iOS and Mac Spotlight

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Post by rtpg »

beaner wrote: post #7
lemoncucumber wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could almost see Apple buying DuckDuckGo, given that a) Apple cares about their users' privacy, and b) Apple cares about having control over the entire user experience. DuckDuckGo would fit right in with both of those core pieces of Apple (no pun intended). I don't think it'll actually happen, but it doesn't seem too far-fetched.

Apple doesn't care about it's users' privacy. It only ever started making a big deal about privacy when people started criticizing Google for hoarding too much personal info and using it to target ads, which people think is evil. Apple doesn't do these things (it's not Apple's business model), so they began heavily marketing "privacy" as something you'd get from them and not the competition. They make sort of okay at…

They also made a political stand on the search warrant for that one iPhone that they could have unlocked. A stand that wasn't even popular among the general public ("companies should help police investigate terrorists" polls very well).

Being super pedantic, Apple doesn't care about anything, just like a company can't care... but I think it's safe to say that it's not last on the list of things they prioritize.

Re: Apple switches from Bing to Google for Siri web search on iOS and Mac Spotlight

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Post by 0xbear »

beaner wrote: post #7
lemoncucumber wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could almost see Apple buying DuckDuckGo, given that a) Apple cares about their users' privacy, and b) Apple cares about having control over the entire user experience. DuckDuckGo would fit right in with both of those core pieces of Apple (no pun intended). I don't think it'll actually happen, but it doesn't seem too far-fetched.

Apple doesn't care about it's users' privacy. It only ever started making a big deal about privacy when people started criticizing Google for hoarding too much personal info and using it to target ads, which people think is evil. Apple doesn't do these things (it's not Apple's business model), so they began heavily marketing "privacy" as something you'd get from them and not the competition. They make sort of okay at…

You get the behavior you reward. If consumers buy their products for their privacy features, we will get more privacy features. What's not to like?

Re: Apple switches from Bing to Google for Siri web search on iOS and Mac Spotlight

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Post by kobeya »

0xbear wrote: post #17
dmead wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is that true? i thought DDG predates bing?

I believe they initially used Google as their backend. Don't quote me on that though. One thing I know for sure is their search is not really provided by them.

They’ve always had their own backend.
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