Seems like there's a place in the market for a crowd funded campaign that does the opposite - brings people together.
"Rage porn" is a whole lot easier to sell than happiness. CGP Grey covers it pretty well in this video
Russia used Facebook ads to exploit divisions over Black Lives Matter, Muslims
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Re: Russia used Facebook ads to exploit divisions over Black Lives Matter, Muslims
#22Main questions and comments that strike me when I see the $100,000 amount is: With Clinton spending $141.7 million and Trump spending $58.8 million on advertising, does that miniscule amount even matter? What was even the CTR with those advertisements? Is there even anything wrong with any country or person(s) doing that or trying to do that since we already have Super PACs and lobbyists? I have more thoughts that ar…
Clinton and Trump are US Citizens.
Re: Russia used Facebook ads to exploit divisions over Black Lives Matter, Muslims
#23Main questions and comments that strike me when I see the $100,000 amount is: With Clinton spending $141.7 million and Trump spending $58.8 million on advertising, does that miniscule amount even matter? What was even the CTR with those advertisements? Is there even anything wrong with any country or person(s) doing that or trying to do that since we already have Super PACs and lobbyists? I have more thoughts that ar…
> Is there even anything wrong with any country
It's illegal?
But you ask good questions.
Re: Russia used Facebook ads to exploit divisions over Black Lives Matter, Muslims
#24Seems right out of Foundations of Geopolitics [1].
> Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics."
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
Re: Russia used Facebook ads to exploit divisions over Black Lives Matter, Muslims
#25Main questions and comments that strike me when I see the $100,000 amount is: With Clinton spending $141.7 million and Trump spending $58.8 million on advertising, does that miniscule amount even matter? What was even the CTR with those advertisements? Is there even anything wrong with any country or person(s) doing that or trying to do that since we already have Super PACs and lobbyists? I have more thoughts that ar…
First, the $100,000 may not be the full spend, it's just the minimum based on what has been identified as false-flag accounts linked to Russia. There may well have been orders of magnitude more spending that has not been identified as false flag accounts (further, it's not even the total expenditure of resources on the false flag accounts, just the part actually spent buying placement—when comparing to campaign spend…
But I can't see any reason to think that Russia would be the main actor in the "false-flag/astroturf space". I mean, it's hard not to think everyone with an interest in the outcome would be pushing here to get their interests served.
Certainly, the DNC emails seemed to demonstrate an interest in underhanded approaches (not that I'd discount a similar interest from the Trump campaign). And PACs that are actually independent would be jumping in the action, etc.
Re: Russia used Facebook ads to exploit divisions over Black Lives Matter, Muslims
#26Seems right out of Foundations of Geopolitics [1]. > Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – ex…
> use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism...
And therein lies the sad reality for us all. Given how brilliant Russians truly are, had they directed their tremendous cultural wealth instead toward stabilizing and strengthening this world, perhaps they would have already achieved their goals of leading it long ago. Of course, that might entail in some ways to not follow in the footsteps of its current leaders.
Re: Russia used Facebook ads to exploit divisions over Black Lives Matter, Muslims
#27Main questions and comments that strike me when I see the $100,000 amount is: With Clinton spending $141.7 million and Trump spending $58.8 million on advertising, does that miniscule amount even matter? What was even the CTR with those advertisements? Is there even anything wrong with any country or person(s) doing that or trying to do that since we already have Super PACs and lobbyists? I have more thoughts that ar…
First, the $100,000 may not be the full spend, it's just the minimum based on what has been identified as false-flag accounts linked to Russia. There may well have been orders of magnitude more spending that has not been identified as false flag accounts (further, it's not even the total expenditure of resources on the false flag accounts, just the part actually spent buying placement—when comparing to campaign spend…
The $100,000 may well have been a small fraction of what was actually spent, but until we have proof the outrage needs to be kept down. We're in real danger of revisiting yellow journalism and creating an even more polarizing political situation.
Re: Russia used Facebook ads to exploit divisions over Black Lives Matter, Muslims
#28This started as "Russia hacked the election" and now we are talking about Russia taking out ads in support of BLM claiming its a psyop? At what point do people just accept the fact that Trump won a democratic election, racists voting or not.
The actual campaigns took out billions of $ in ads and campaign ads are never honest, accurate or logical. Who cares about $100k in Russian ads?
Re: Russia used Facebook ads to exploit divisions over Black Lives Matter, Muslims
#29Seems right out of Foundations of Geopolitics [1]. > Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – ex…
> use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism... And therein lies the sad reality for us all. Given how brilliant Russians truly are, had they directed their tremendous cultural wealth instead toward stabilizing and strengthening this world, perhaps they would have already achieved their goals of leading it long ago. Of course, that might entail in some ways to…
> had(Russian) they directed their tremendous cultural wealth instead toward stabilizing and strengthening this world, perhaps they would have already achieved their goals of leading it long ago.
Do you have any examples from the current roster of leading nations that have used their resources to contribute to stability of the world?
The sad reality is USA does all it can to retain power. All other are trying everything they can to obtain it.
Re: Russia used Facebook ads to exploit divisions over Black Lives Matter, Muslims
#30This started as "Russia hacked the election" and now we are talking about Russia taking out ads in support of BLM claiming its a psyop? At what point do people just accept the fact that Trump won a democratic election, racists voting or not. The actual campaigns took out billions of $ in ads and campaign ads are never honest, accurate or logical. Who cares about $100k in Russian ads?
> At what point do people just accept the fact that Trump won a democratic election, racists voting or not.
We'll see when Mueller's investigation is over.