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Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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Post by wallflower »

TetOn wrote: post #36
Teese wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, what was it? and did he stump them?

Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard#History ) reports: Work for it began in March 1985 under the name of WildCard

I believe they did phone-a-friend to a retired Apple employee that worked with Bill to get that answer.

The best part was the host paused and told us all that we most likely would not be here in the giant room if it were not for Bill's early contributions (QuickDraw). That was when we gave him the standing ovation.

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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Post by wallflower »

Teese wrote: post #35
wallflower wrote: post #33

At this year's edition of Stump the Experts at WWDC, Bill Atkinson went up to the mike and asked the experts what the original name for the HyperCard project was. He got a standing ovation and pimped his photo iPhone app.

Well, what was it? and did he stump them?

The best question was what was the first Apple with an Intel chip.

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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Post by lordgilman »

DLWormwood wrote: post #12
thought_alarm wrote: post #3

Initially I wondered why MacPaint wasn't written in C, but I'm rather grateful it's in Pascal; it's surprisingly easy to read! Although, I suppose Bill Atkinson deserves the credit for that.

I double-clicked on the .rsrc file, since I still have a working resource editor (Resorcerer) on my OS X Mac. No dice; it’s in the ancient MPW “Rez” format that acted as the original way to store resource information for development and source control before being compiled into the classic Mac dual-forked file format. I kind of wish I kept my CodeWarrior discs handy; they still had a Rez compiler that worked under ea…

There's a command line Rez compiler shipped with Xcode. The name is case-sensitive.

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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Post by ja27 »

trop wrote: post #5

In PaintAsm.a: .FUNC Monkey ;--------------------------------------------------------------------- ; ; FUNCTION Monkey: BOOLEAN; ; TST MonkeyLives ;IS THE MONKEY ACTIVE ? SGE 4(SP) ;YES IF >= ZERO NEG.B 4(SP) ;CONVERT TO PASCAL BOOLEAN RTS According to http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story... , this was used to detect an keypress/mousemove/mousepress-generating testing tool and turn off a few thing…

Always mount a scratch monkey.

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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Post by dangrover »

pepijndevos wrote: post #40

Can anyone tell me what the eyes in the screenshots are? They look like xeyes, but I think that version of Mac predates xeyes. A friend of me claims Apple invented these eyes and the Linux people copied it from them, but I can't find anything about that.

I remember having an extension on system 7 that did that... Probably had been around for a while. There was also one that made footprints go across your desktop during the course of the day and one that made Oscar the Grouch come out of your trash icon.

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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Post by masklinn »

bad_user wrote: post #34
masklinn wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because GIMP is ugly as sin, a pain to use, overly complicated and terribly huge (the dmg is 78MB versus a 15MB zip file for Acorn). And I'm not even into actual design/drawing. If you want open source software, at least go with Seashore which doesn't look like complete crap. Also, because Acorn is a good image editor and the FlyingMeat crew is damn nice.

> GIMP is ugly as sin, a pain to use, overly complicated and terribly huge And yet you haven't answered ... the investment you make in these tools is substantial anyway. Why would somebody invest in crippleware ... instead of investing in Photoshop (the industry's standard) ... or in an open-source alternative that is just as capable, only more complicated to use and less standard. Also, you're complaining about 78MB…

> And yet you haven't answered .

Of course I did. You might not have liked my answer, but it won't change: GIMP is garbage.

> Why would somebody invest in crippleware ... instead of investing in Photoshop (the industry's standard)

Acorn is $0 and does the job very well for the basic stuff. Photoshop CS5 is $699. Why pay $699, or spend 6 month trying to understand the alien ways of GIMP, when you can just get Acorn for free and get done with what you need to?

> or in an open-source alternative that is just as capable, only more complicated to use and less standard.

Because it's complete and utter garbage. Open-Source garbage doesn't stink less just because it's so free you can make your own. And again, if you're so stuck on OSS, OSX (which you shouldn't be using in the first place since it's not open) has Seashore, which is serviceable, Cocoa and which I note you conveniently ignored.

> Personally I love GIMP ...

More power to you, eh. You're a minority.

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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Post by cosmicray »

trop wrote: post #5

In PaintAsm.a: .FUNC Monkey ;--------------------------------------------------------------------- ; ; FUNCTION Monkey: BOOLEAN; ; TST MonkeyLives ;IS THE MONKEY ACTIVE ? SGE 4(SP) ;YES IF >= ZERO NEG.B 4(SP) ;CONVERT TO PASCAL BOOLEAN RTS According to http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story... , this was used to detect an keypress/mousemove/mousepress-generating testing tool and turn off a few thing…

MonkeyLives (aka low memory global address $100) was a system global that was usually off. If you saw it on, it indicated that the equivalent of a monkey was loose on the keyboard. IOW, don't do anything dangerous when true.
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