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Re: Other ways to read Hacker News

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Post by allover »

gkya wrote: post #174
allover wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It loads fast and doesn't use web fonts, but that's not really a high bar, for essentially a forum. Apart from that it's not exactly a pleasant reading experience. Tiny text for modern displays. Poor typography (bad line-height of content, needlessly cramped padding in listing). Ugly beige background colour, randomly constrained to a container, (why not be all-white or all-beige). Poor click targets for smaller displ…

I disagree all of your criticisms. Apart from the last one, they are all subjective and I disagree without a reason. I like what I see. Wrt sizes of the click targets , HN, unlike many products of elegant (!) design, let's you zoom in an out, so that is not a problem.

Zooming in and out and panning around a webpage is a terrible user experience in my opinion.

Re: Other ways to read Hacker News

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Post by bastijn »

allover wrote: post #159
bastijn wrote: post #130

For me the native version is stunningly good. Both on desktop and mobile devices. It loads tremendously fast, has the correct font types and no smuck. The only sidestep I sometimes make is to Boreal[1][2] as a native ios app. It has a more convenient way if reading the comments. Double tap a comment to collapse instead of hit the little minus sign. Especially as I read with only my left hand and minus sign is on the…

It loads fast and doesn't use web fonts, but that's not really a high bar, for essentially a forum. Apart from that it's not exactly a pleasant reading experience. Tiny text for modern displays. Poor typography (bad line-height of content, needlessly cramped padding in listing). Ugly beige background colour, randomly constrained to a container, (why not be all-white or all-beige). Poor click targets for smaller displ…

Interesting. I find the app you mention an example of an experience worse than the regular web page on mobile. On ios hn actually looks great.

https://imgur.com/JP8LxIT

Re: Other ways to read Hacker News

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Post by baby »

tqkxzugoaupvwqr wrote: post #151
lolsal wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it so awful? Collapsing, threaded comments seem to be a great way to organize organic discussions. How would you do it differently? 'Awful' implies that it is very far from your preferred format.

They don’t complain about threading, they complain about the UX of collapsing threads. On mobile, the hit target is too small (a minus sign) to hit reliably with a single quick tap.

This and it is on the right, not on the left (so it's horizontal position always changes, see reddit for a good example of good UI).

Re: Other ways to read Hacker News

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Post by keltvek »

wakkaflokka wrote: post #135
keltvek wrote: post #109

I use hckrnews.com together with Stylish (extension) dark theme ( https://userstyles.org/styles/117803/dark-hckrnews-2017 ). I also use a dark theme for Hacker News ( https://userstyles.org/styles/113994/hacker-news-dark ). For me it is much easier on the eyes.

How safe is it to use something like Stylish?

Depends on how much do you trust browser extensions. From my knowledge every extension code can be inspected and read unless the code is obfuscated. The styles are written in CSS (only a few lines) and injected into the website. So you can quickly review it.

If you want to be extra cautious you could write your own extension to be safer, but I trust it good enough.

Re: Other ways to read Hacker News

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Post by traitormonkey »

bastijn wrote: post #130

For me the native version is stunningly good. Both on desktop and mobile devices. It loads tremendously fast, has the correct font types and no smuck. The only sidestep I sometimes make is to Boreal[1][2] as a native ios app. It has a more convenient way if reading the comments. Double tap a comment to collapse instead of hit the little minus sign. Especially as I read with only my left hand and minus sign is on the…

if random users have literally invented dozens of different ways of viewing your site then your design probably sucks ass - and boy this one does but nobody really comes here for tiny dancing font - more to gape at just how wrong others can be on the internet.

Re: Other ways to read Hacker News

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Post by TeMPOraL »

krapp wrote: post #157
sumeno wrote: post #75

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People likely would use it. It's a HN account, not a bank account.

Yes, but they shouldn't. Even though I have no ill intent and it's just an account on a silly web forum, they shouldn't and it would make me sad if they did.

Some of those are apps. Apps should be fine to use those accounts, as they should not contact anything else than HN and HN's API.

But I guess the only way to be sure is to write one yourself.

Re: Other ways to read Hacker News

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Post by jjeaff »

allover wrote: post #181
gkya wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree all of your criticisms. Apart from the last one, they are all subjective and I disagree without a reason. I like what I see. Wrt sizes of the click targets , HN, unlike many products of elegant (!) design, let's you zoom in an out, so that is not a problem.

Zooming in and out and panning around a webpage is a terrible user experience in my opinion.

Yes, I like the option to pan and zoom. But if I have to do so, that is indicative of a bad design in my book.

Re: Other ways to read Hacker News

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Post by josefresco »

dang wrote: post #138
crims0n wrote: post #40

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They seem to have added this feature to the main site within the last couple months. It works for me on my iPad anyway, maybe give it another try.

July 2016 :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12073675

Ouch - I guess I never expected to see it there!

Re: Other ways to read Hacker News

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Post by allover »

bastijn wrote: post #182
allover wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It loads fast and doesn't use web fonts, but that's not really a high bar, for essentially a forum. Apart from that it's not exactly a pleasant reading experience. Tiny text for modern displays. Poor typography (bad line-height of content, needlessly cramped padding in listing). Ugly beige background colour, randomly constrained to a container, (why not be all-white or all-beige). Poor click targets for smaller displ…

Interesting. I find the app you mention an example of an experience worse than the regular web page on mobile. On ios hn actually looks great. https://imgur.com/JP8LxIT

That's not great. Far worse and less usable than Premii's iOS app imo, subjective though obviously.
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