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Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Just break the rules. I have gone to the movies with food and beer in my back pack over one hundred times and never been searched, or caught in the theatre.

If I'm to just break the rules in order to improve the viewing experience, why should I not go the whole way and just torrent the latest movies to watch at home?

No one said to break the law.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Although RT tends to produce false positives for me, it is a reasonably reliable filter. If Hollywood is suffering, I'd look to the quality of its product. For example, marvel civil war is a false positive (for me). When I watch it, I can't get past the clipped, contrived dialogue, close-ups on faces, ham-fisted plots, inconceivably stupid action, schizophrenic scene changes, plastic cgi, and awkward obviously demogr…

I used to like action movies but they had a somewhat realistic everyman element to them and the characters were if not entirely relateable at least sympathetic. But Hollywood's love affair with impossible physics; shooting someone doesn't send them flying, you can't outrun explosions, not everything explodes into a giant gasoline ball of flame, etc, has ramped up to the point where it takes me out of suspension of disbelief. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and everyone's flying around on wires? Sure, it's genre-specific and makes sense in context. Every movie ever made in the last 10 years? Not so much.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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If I'm to just break the rules in order to improve the viewing experience, why should I not go the whole way and just torrent the latest movies to watch at home?

No one said to break the law.

It depends where you are and how you do it, but copyright infringement is often a civil matter, not a criminal one, just like ignoring the posted conditions of entry of a cinema by sneaking food in.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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It sounds like you've been going to the wrong movies, at least for your tastes. You seem to be exclusively seeing blockbusters. Maybe you'd prefer smaller, less action-focused films.

Eh, I love a good action movie, but it's hard to get into movies that you can't believe. I watched a very low rated one from the 80s the other day ( https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/blood_of_heroes/ ), and while it had very little plot, and the production value was incredibly low compared to recent movies, and just generally wasn't a very good movie, I enjoyed it more than the vast majority of very expensive recent b…

> I wish hollywood would get to making movies about real people.

Then watch movies about real people.

Others (a much higher percentage of the population) will continue to enjoy movies that are about thigns that can't happen in real life.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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post #146

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Again, its the same lens of time, there were 2-3 times as many forgettable dramas, romantic comedies, historical pictures, and lets not even start on westerns - they're not even part of our collective memories anymore. Consider that in 1939, there were something like two movies a week released - and 1939 was a banner year for quality too in all honesty - but still only 2-3 have survived in popular memory, and only 10…

We came up with a ballpark metric back in the University, since Hollywood has a pretty stable track record when it comes to quality films. On any given year, Hollywood studios manage to produce at most 2 good films. Total.

That's not a bad ratio. If you said Bollywood, it'd be much worse, and IMO, generous.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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These type of articles never explore the potential results of the Rotten Tomatoes voting system. As the article mentions the RT rating is not a measure of how good a movie is, it is a measure of the percentage of people who viewed the movie positively. A 100% doesn't mean a movie is perfect or even particularly good, it means no one thought it was bad. A movie designed to do well on a RT score needs to please everyon…

Those films are now done by Netflix and Amazon. Just a different model. I used to go to an indie theater twice a week when I was in college and saw every niche film. But those theaters hardly exist any more. The big theater experience just isn't cut out for that. It's barely pleasant enough to go see the latest popcorn movie. The industry really needs to take at-home seriously.

Lately I find the experience of sitting in an auditorium for several hours profoundly unpleasant. The (to me) nauseating smell of popcorn, the sticky floors, uncomfortable seats, and painfully loud speakers are just not worth it for so many forgettable movies (to say nothing of Prometheus). I took my whole family to see the Force Awakens, though, and none of us were noticed any of this because we were so enthralled by the film. But that's a rare exception to the rule these days.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Although RT tends to produce false positives for me, it is a reasonably reliable filter. If Hollywood is suffering, I'd look to the quality of its product. For example, marvel civil war is a false positive (for me). When I watch it, I can't get past the clipped, contrived dialogue, close-ups on faces, ham-fisted plots, inconceivably stupid action, schizophrenic scene changes, plastic cgi, and awkward obviously demogr…

It sounds like you've been going to the wrong movies, at least for your tastes. You seem to be exclusively seeing blockbusters. Maybe you'd prefer smaller, less action-focused films.

good point! And you're right, I do have those preferences. I guess I wasn't lamenting my own situation (I personally feel blessed to have as much art available to me as I do). I was trying to make a pretty awkward point, which was that even though I understand my conscious preferences aren't shared by most audience members, I think a failure to "satisfice" on some features of artistic quality might be reducing the value of the product for everyone, and hence the profitability of blockbuster movie studios. It's a hypothesis, anyway.

edit: re-reading I see that I used "movie-going" to mean "going to the Regal Cinema 17 with extended family and seeing a Hollywood movie," which makes it sound like I'm throwing going to movies period under the bus.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

#208

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Just break the rules. I have gone to the movies with food and beer in my back pack over one hundred times and never been searched, or caught in the theatre.

If I'm to just break the rules in order to improve the viewing experience, why should I not go the whole way and just torrent the latest movies to watch at home?

Oftentimes, the latest movies don't have a high quality Blu-Ray Rip until months after they are released in theatres.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

#209

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If I'm to just break the rules in order to improve the viewing experience, why should I not go the whole way and just torrent the latest movies to watch at home?

Oftentimes, the latest movies don't have a high quality Blu-Ray Rip until months after they are released in theatres.

That's true, but as I said before, I've delayed my movie timetable by 6 months, so that doesn't really affect me. Here's the thing I would have those who's job it is to design the movie theater experience understand:

If going to the cinema was free, I would still choose to wait for movies to be released for in home viewing. The cinema experience is /that/ bad.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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One thing John Wick gets right though, is that they took their time with the choreography and training rather than using shaky cam and jump cuts to cover the fact that the actors have no idea what they’re doing. Keanu Reeves spent a lot of time learning how to handle firearms and it shows.

Very good point, and it's way easier to follow because of it.

My only complaint is that I would prefer they figure out some way to simulate firearm recoil. As a hobby / target shooter it always takes away from the action when I see guns rock steady every shot. If guns were like that everyone would be John Wick.
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