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How We Grow Junior Developers at the BBC

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Re: How We Grow Junior Developers at the BBC

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Post by QAPereo »

nerdponx wrote: post #9
bjornlouser wrote: post #8

"I wanted to make sure that my first job post-university would be somewhere where I would feel happy and work not on my own, but with an agile team ..." It's interesting that any young developer would regard the micromanagement that comes with agile as a plus.

Do they just mean agile in the sense of "adaptable and fast-moving"? Also, for some (many) junior anything s some micromanagement is a good thing, especially for a college grad with little "real world" experience.

BBC levels of management are good for no one other than the management.

Re: How We Grow Junior Developers at the BBC

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Post by dopeboy »

I train new technical hires at Fortune 500 financial institutions so this article struck a chord with me.

One of the key points that I leave my cohort with overlaps with the OP's point about fresh perspectives. The hires I'm with are up to speed with the newest languages, newest frameworks, and newest tools. I encourage them over and over to try to bring that knowledge into their roles.

Re: How We Grow Junior Developers at the BBC

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Post by Zenst »

user5994461 wrote: post #4

Isn't the BBC a company where the only senior positions are as a contractor, charging 3 times the amount of their permanent counterpart for much less hassle? I am not sure if the author is trying to write a nice PR piece or is so inexperienced that he believes in all this corporate bullshit he's repeating. ^^

Well many parts of the BBC (tech wise) got outsourced/tuped circa 2003, saw lots of good people go and the whole of new media (web aspect) got decimated back then with cuts.

I know this as I worked for the BBC at the time.

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Post by [deleted] »

QAPereo wrote: post #11
nerdponx wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they just mean agile in the sense of "adaptable and fast-moving"? Also, for some (many) junior anything s some micromanagement is a good thing, especially for a college grad with little "real world" experience.

BBC levels of management are good for no one other than the management.

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Re: How We Grow Junior Developers at the BBC

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Post by UK-AL »

bjornlouser wrote: post #8

"I wanted to make sure that my first job post-university would be somewhere where I would feel happy and work not on my own, but with an agile team ..." It's interesting that any young developer would regard the micromanagement that comes with agile as a plus.

He worked at a waterfall digital agency.

Literally anything is better than that. The description of working a digital agency matches mine exactly.

Your given pictures and told to make it work as fast as possible. With no input into the actual experience.

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Post by closeparen »

bjornlouser wrote: post #8

"I wanted to make sure that my first job post-university would be somewhere where I would feel happy and work not on my own, but with an agile team ..." It's interesting that any young developer would regard the micromanagement that comes with agile as a plus.

I'm a relatively junior developer, and I work on a team that I would characterize as agile (though we don't use that word). I have broad latitude to write what I want to (with peer review of code, and peer + stakeholder review of RFCs), at whatever pace my manager and I agree is reasonable, to fulfill broad business goals.

I wouldn't last long under the micromanagement of being handed an architecture and software design by someone else, and being told to just churn it out.

Re: How We Grow Junior Developers at the BBC

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Post by ismail »

sudhirj wrote: post #10
bjornlouser wrote: post #8

"I wanted to make sure that my first job post-university would be somewhere where I would feel happy and work not on my own, but with an agile team ..." It's interesting that any young developer would regard the micromanagement that comes with agile as a plus.

> micromanagement that comes with agile It's a sad day when the ideas behind the agile movement have fully become the Agile System (tm) in engineer consciousness. The word used to denote a style of working, not characterised by micromanagement or by a Scrum Master (tm, again) telling people what to do, but ironically by leaving behind dogma for a loose collection of principles that worked effectively for the team and…

Curious why would one think agile is micromanaging?

Re: How We Grow Junior Developers at the BBC

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Post by dom96 »

DanBC wrote: post #3
dom96 wrote: post #2

Thanks for sharing. In regards to the BBC however, and on behalf of my SO, I am curious how to get your foot in the door as a script writer (or as something related to this). Does anyone have any insights/tips/contacts that they would give to someone interested in becoming a script writer for the BBC?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/writersroom/

I was hoping for something other than this. This is something that I am already aware of.
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