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Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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> All my MacBook keyboards get their caps lock keys remapped to control You must be an emacs heathen. Caps lock gets remapped to ESC.

> Caps lock gets remapped to ESC 15 year vimmer here. Caps -> Ctrl and use C-[ for going to normal mode.

another long-time vimmer here, and i'm perfectly happy to reach up and hit esc. caps lock is a lot more useful as ctrl.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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The greater point is that if you put something really useful next to something really annoying it will exacerbate the issue. F1 should not be so bad, and it should not be so close to F2. Even just leaving alone how bad , and utterly useless, the help dialogues in Windows are it's just terrible UX design. It would be like having a "eject engine block" button next to the "start car" button. One day you're going to hit…

one thing that boggles me about the firefox dev team is their continuing refusal to add a "disable ctrl-Q" setting. it's right next to ctrl-W and in my firefox using days i accidentally hit it a ton of times.

You might like one of the add-ons that disable Ctrl-Q.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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I remember Visual C++ 6 where F1 would instantly go to and offline reference to the current symbol, similar to Qt Creator now. It was great. Of course now it searches done Windows live forum or something and is 100% useless.

I haven't dared pressing F1 for a long time now but I remember Visual Studio versions where pressing F1 would completely stop your computer because it starts up the "Help Server", lots of 7200 spinning rust churn, more churn, an Electron-style app opens..

That would be VS 2010 and later. Before that, it had an actual working offline help system (which took, IIRC, more than half of those CDs that came in the box). And that help was actually pretty good.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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Windows help and Windows troubeshooter are among the two most useless things in the OS (and lately it's Cortana). It far easier and more relevant to just do a Google search than waste time with these things. Same goes for answers.microsoft.com, whenever i see that link on top og Google results I'm pretty sure I'll just waste 10 minutes of my life and then search for the same thing on Stackexchange and pray to god som…

> It far easier and more relevant to just do a Google search than waste time with these things.

Keep in mind that the Windows help system (and F1 as a shortcut for the same) dates back to when Internet was not a given - heck, TCP was not a given.

Now that I think about it, I actually wonder when F1=help became a thing. I distinctly recall a lot of DOS software already using it - e.g. Norton Commander had help on F1 since v1.0, and that shipped in 1986.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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Back in my Engineer days, where I'd spend much of my time writing technical reports, I'd always remove the Insert key from my keyboard. It's sitting there in that block of six keys that you use all the time when editing text (home, end, page up/down, delete), and it's a little timebomb. You would invariably hit it by accident at some point and change your editor into "overwrite all my stuff" mode. It would usually ta…

Before Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V to copy and paste, the usual method was Ctrl+Ins and Shift+Ins (and Shift+Del for cut), so this key did have a lot of use back in the day. These key combinations still work in most Windows software.

In DOS, these combos were used by Borland's Turbo Vision GUI toolkit (and they didn't offer Ctrl+C/V/X as alternatives). So everything written using that - and there was quite a bit, especially once you count LOB apps - had those shortcuts. In particular, all of Borland's own IDEs did, so those of us who learned to code C or Pascal on DOS in that era still got those shortcuts memorized.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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post #190
post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The greater point is that if you put something really useful next to something really annoying it will exacerbate the issue. F1 should not be so bad, and it should not be so close to F2. Even just leaving alone how bad , and utterly useless, the help dialogues in Windows are it's just terrible UX design. It would be like having a "eject engine block" button next to the "start car" button. One day you're going to hit…

one thing that boggles me about the firefox dev team is their continuing refusal to add a "disable ctrl-Q" setting. it's right next to ctrl-W and in my firefox using days i accidentally hit it a ton of times.

Chrome used to "honor" the backspace key means navigate backwards so much that if you hit tab (changed focus) while typing a textbox then hit backspace it would nav back and lose all your text. Made me cry so many times.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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Windows help and Windows troubeshooter are among the two most useless things in the OS (and lately it's Cortana). It far easier and more relevant to just do a Google search than waste time with these things. Same goes for answers.microsoft.com, whenever i see that link on top og Google results I'm pretty sure I'll just waste 10 minutes of my life and then search for the same thing on Stackexchange and pray to god som…

> It far easier and more relevant to just do a Google search than waste time with these things. Keep in mind that the Windows help system (and F1 as a shortcut for the same) dates back to when Internet was not a given - heck, TCP was not a given. Now that I think about it, I actually wonder when F1=help became a thing. I distinctly recall a lot of DOS software already using it - e.g. Norton Commander had help on F1 s…

The internet has been a thing for quite some time now, like at least 4 os releases? Microsoft could have found the time to redo the help system to suck less.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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> It far easier and more relevant to just do a Google search than waste time with these things. Keep in mind that the Windows help system (and F1 as a shortcut for the same) dates back to when Internet was not a given - heck, TCP was not a given. Now that I think about it, I actually wonder when F1=help became a thing. I distinctly recall a lot of DOS software already using it - e.g. Norton Commander had help on F1 s…

The internet has been a thing for quite some time now, like at least 4 os releases? Microsoft could have found the time to redo the help system to suck less.

It has been redone (whether it sucks less is subjective, of course).

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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In all their wisdom Asus put the power button next to the delete button on my BX410 [0]. Too bad I can't pop that button. Setting it to do nothing is the first thing I do after installing Linux (which I do regularly). [0] https://dlcdnimgs.asus.com/websites/global/products/APfLG1Rk...

I have a Lenovo Flex 10 - the volume rocker is close to the power button and feels the same. Accidentally leave the volume on full, open a youtube video or independent article, accidentally turn off the device. Wake our baby either with the noise or my subsequent swearing at the useless machine.
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