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Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Or bring snacks from home (or a convienence store which is a bargain compared to a theatre)

>Or bring snacks from home (or a convienence store which is a bargain compared to a theatre) Movie theaters almost universally do not allow outside food or drinks, so that isn't really an option. But these days if I ever go to a movie I pretty much exclusively go to a dine-in theater(alamo drafthouse, studio move grill, etc) because at least there I'm getting decent food instead of a paying $20 for tub of popcorn and…

Just break the rules. I have gone to the movies with food and beer in my back pack over one hundred times and never been searched, or caught in the theatre.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Although RT tends to produce false positives for me, it is a reasonably reliable filter. If Hollywood is suffering, I'd look to the quality of its product. For example, marvel civil war is a false positive (for me). When I watch it, I can't get past the clipped, contrived dialogue, close-ups on faces, ham-fisted plots, inconceivably stupid action, schizophrenic scene changes, plastic cgi, and awkward obviously demogr…

Shameless plug incoming:

I helped produce a short film called Confidential Informant. We poured our hearts and wallets into the film. I am very proud of the result. We (sort of, I'm currently in college so I have been reduced to editing scripts, crafting one pagers, and sitting on conference calls) are about to set out on a few more endeavors and quality, originality, and financial success for our investors and contractors is paramount. We hire quality over quantity. We want to make good movies that make enough money to make more.

I write all this to highlight two points: it is not just mindless recreations and rebrands out there (I have to believe that we are not the only indy guys who want to make good pictures) and there is good content out there, but like all good things you must work to find it.

When I get tipsy and hopeful, I dream of seeking funding from the likes of HN folks (y'all definitely talk like you could afford to invest in low budget pictures) instead of the withered, myopic folks who do the bulk of investing now. Film is risky, and people want guaranteed ROI. The climate is such that people want guaranteed winners and few will take risks on unknown quantities, directors, scripts and production companies alike.

Sorry for the ramble, but every time I hear someone complain about the state of film these days, my first response is, "what are you willing to do to change that?"

If anyone is interested in getting involved with a small and hungry production company hit me up. We don't need you to win but we'd love to have you.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Eh, I love a good action movie, but it's hard to get into movies that you can't believe. I watched a very low rated one from the 80s the other day ( https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/blood_of_heroes/ ), and while it had very little plot, and the production value was incredibly low compared to recent movies, and just generally wasn't a very good movie, I enjoyed it more than the vast majority of very expensive recent b…

Have you seen the John Wick movies?

I have. Definitely better than the superhero flicks that plague theaters, but he's still got that invulnerable mechanical efficiency that gets a bit old after he's plowed through the 50th person in a 10 minute shootout. I'm talking more like Die Hard, Alien, Air Force One, or even First Blood, where the main character is a mostly regular person with some combat training, is in a situation where they're believably screwed, and has to rely on their wits to survive the odds stacked against them, not just their incredible reflexes.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Eh, I love a good action movie, but it's hard to get into movies that you can't believe. I watched a very low rated one from the 80s the other day ( https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/blood_of_heroes/ ), and while it had very little plot, and the production value was incredibly low compared to recent movies, and just generally wasn't a very good movie, I enjoyed it more than the vast majority of very expensive recent b…

Time to watch Jack Reacher.

Seem to remember that being good, though I don't remember the specifics, I should rewatch.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Eh, I love a good action movie, but it's hard to get into movies that you can't believe. I watched a very low rated one from the 80s the other day ( https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/blood_of_heroes/ ), and while it had very little plot, and the production value was incredibly low compared to recent movies, and just generally wasn't a very good movie, I enjoyed it more than the vast majority of very expensive recent b…

Those are called dramas.

Does it have to be mutually exclusive?

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Have you seen the John Wick movies?

I have. Definitely better than the superhero flicks that plague theaters, but he's still got that invulnerable mechanical efficiency that gets a bit old after he's plowed through the 50th person in a 10 minute shootout. I'm talking more like Die Hard, Alien, Air Force One, or even First Blood, where the main character is a mostly regular person with some combat training, is in a situation where they're believably scr…

> in a situation where they're believably screwed

There's a lot of action-packed neo-noir that you might like:

http://www.tasteofcinema.com/2014/the-20-best-neo-noir-films...

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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RT isn't killing the movie industry, but bad predictors or review engines are certainly not helping consumers. If any website ever shows you some kind of function(eg average) of the general population's perspective, and you are using it to determine if will like it or not, it will probably be wrong.

Just as there is no 'average human', there is no average movie. A movie which is universally panned by most people may be adored by some. Ratings can only make sense within an egocentric data model.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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I have. Definitely better than the superhero flicks that plague theaters, but he's still got that invulnerable mechanical efficiency that gets a bit old after he's plowed through the 50th person in a 10 minute shootout. I'm talking more like Die Hard, Alien, Air Force One, or even First Blood, where the main character is a mostly regular person with some combat training, is in a situation where they're believably scr…

> in a situation where they're believably screwed There's a lot of action-packed neo-noir that you might like: http://www.tasteofcinema.com/2014/the-20-best-neo-noir-films...

Awesome list (the ones I know), I'll have to check out the rest. Thanks!

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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"which they're not " Many of them are though. If you ever get a chance to study some 'old film's in Uni or whatever, it's pretty interesting. A lot oldies can seem a little bland to us, but they're like novels - they are much richer than we grasp at first glance. Also there is context. Best example would be Charlie Chaplin. I mean, it can seem ridiculous ... but really it's genius. Pacing and language has changed so…

Again, its the same lens of time, there were 2-3 times as many forgettable dramas, romantic comedies, historical pictures, and lets not even start on westerns - they're not even part of our collective memories anymore. Consider that in 1939, there were something like two movies a week released - and 1939 was a banner year for quality too in all honesty - but still only 2-3 have survived in popular memory, and only 10…

We came up with a ballpark metric back in the University, since Hollywood has a pretty stable track record when it comes to quality films.

On any given year, Hollywood studios manage to produce at most 2 good films. Total.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Have you seen the John Wick movies?

I have. Definitely better than the superhero flicks that plague theaters, but he's still got that invulnerable mechanical efficiency that gets a bit old after he's plowed through the 50th person in a 10 minute shootout. I'm talking more like Die Hard, Alien, Air Force One, or even First Blood, where the main character is a mostly regular person with some combat training, is in a situation where they're believably scr…

One thing John Wick gets right though, is that they took their time with the choreography and training rather than using shaky cam and jump cuts to cover the fact that the actors have no idea what they’re doing. Keanu Reeves spent a lot of time learning how to handle firearms and it shows.
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