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Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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Acorn 2 has a free version which already packs quite a punch, FWIW.

Why use freeware instead of something like Gimp? http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/

because in many cases Acorn is better (lighter, faster, easier to use)

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#32

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Acorn 2 has a free version which already packs quite a punch, FWIW.

Why use freeware instead of something like Gimp? http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/

Because GIMP is ugly as sin, a pain to use, overly complicated and terribly huge (the dmg is 78MB versus a 15MB zip file for Acorn). And I'm not even into actual design/drawing.

If you want open source software, at least go with Seashore which doesn't look like complete crap.

Also, because Acorn is a good image editor and the FlyingMeat crew is damn nice.

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why use freeware instead of something like Gimp? http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/

Because GIMP is ugly as sin, a pain to use, overly complicated and terribly huge (the dmg is 78MB versus a 15MB zip file for Acorn). And I'm not even into actual design/drawing. If you want open source software, at least go with Seashore which doesn't look like complete crap. Also, because Acorn is a good image editor and the FlyingMeat crew is damn nice.

> GIMP is ugly as sin, a pain to use, overly complicated and terribly huge

And yet you haven't answered ... the investment you make in these tools is substantial anyway. Why would somebody invest in crippleware ... instead of investing in Photoshop (the industry's standard) ... or in an open-source alternative that is just as capable, only more complicated to use and less standard.

Also, you're complaining about 78MB? Really?

Personally I love GIMP ... I even wrote my own plugin written in Python for doing smart-sharpening (based on this tutorial: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Smart_Sharpening/). Yeah ... it was a PITA such functionality wasn't built in, but GIMP provides all the filters you need, upon which you can build your own stuff.

Once you get the initial learning curve (most open-source software is like that), it f*cking rocks. And it's here to stay, and won't disappear into obscurity.

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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At this year's edition of Stump the Experts at WWDC, Bill Atkinson went up to the mike and asked the experts what the original name for the HyperCard project was. He got a standing ovation and pimped his photo iPhone app.

Well, what was it? and did he stump them?

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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At this year's edition of Stump the Experts at WWDC, Bill Atkinson went up to the mike and asked the experts what the original name for the HyperCard project was. He got a standing ovation and pimped his photo iPhone app.

Well, what was it? and did he stump them?

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard#History) reports: Work for it began in March 1985 under the name of WildCard

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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If you haven't been, and you're in the bay area, you really should go here. Sure, the nostalgia is wonderful, but they take their work seriously. Last time I went I was talking with one of the docents about an effort they were taking to get the original Unix v1.0 source collected and compiling.

I haven't been to the Computer History Museum (it's been years since I've been in the Bay area), but I did stop by the American Computer Museum in Bozeman, Montana once on a cross-country drive. For something literally stumbled across in a tour guide I was honestly impressed with the collection. It's worth a look if anyone is ever in the area.

http://www.compustory.com/

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because GIMP is ugly as sin, a pain to use, overly complicated and terribly huge (the dmg is 78MB versus a 15MB zip file for Acorn). And I'm not even into actual design/drawing. If you want open source software, at least go with Seashore which doesn't look like complete crap. Also, because Acorn is a good image editor and the FlyingMeat crew is damn nice.

> GIMP is ugly as sin, a pain to use, overly complicated and terribly huge And yet you haven't answered ... the investment you make in these tools is substantial anyway. Why would somebody invest in crippleware ... instead of investing in Photoshop (the industry's standard) ... or in an open-source alternative that is just as capable, only more complicated to use and less standard. Also, you're complaining about 78MB…

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Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because GIMP is ugly as sin, a pain to use, overly complicated and terribly huge (the dmg is 78MB versus a 15MB zip file for Acorn). And I'm not even into actual design/drawing. If you want open source software, at least go with Seashore which doesn't look like complete crap. Also, because Acorn is a good image editor and the FlyingMeat crew is damn nice.

> GIMP is ugly as sin, a pain to use, overly complicated and terribly huge And yet you haven't answered ... the investment you make in these tools is substantial anyway. Why would somebody invest in crippleware ... instead of investing in Photoshop (the industry's standard) ... or in an open-source alternative that is just as capable, only more complicated to use and less standard. Also, you're complaining about 78MB…

... the investment you make in these tools is substantial anyway. Why would somebody invest in crippleware ... instead of investing in Photoshop (the industry's standard) ... or in an open-source alternative that is just as capable, only more complicated to use and less standard.

I don’t understand that part of your reply at all. Why would you get something else if $program can do everything you want? It’s not as though the concepts are fundamentally different. You don’t even have to learn how to use Acorn.

Anyway, GIMP is ugly as hell and an UI abomination. Even when compared to Photoshop.

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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Can anyone tell me what the eyes in the screenshots are? They look like xeyes, but I think that version of Mac predates xeyes. A friend of me claims Apple invented these eyes and the Linux people copied it from them, but I can't find anything about that.
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