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Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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A similar binding once nearly drove me insane trying to copy/paste an api key.

Vim should disable all mappings during a paste. And if it's not, you should be able to hit F8 (or `:set paste`) to toggle paste mode.

Ideally, yes. I don't recall all the details -- I typically run fairly lightweight in terms of vim customizations as I'm often multiple SSH sessions deep, sometimes on systems with vi but no vim (they exist!), so automatic pastetoggle is usually off the table regardless.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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Keep in mind there's evolutionary momentum at work here, too. The standard uses of F1 and F2 especially that are at play in the discussion here date back to some of the earliest PC tools. Volkswriter supposedly used F1 for help as far back as 1982, and it was standardized in the 1987 IBM Common User Access guidelines (which also standardized things like F5 for Refresh before web browsers burnt that shortcut in all ou…

They could have acknowledged that F1 is "help" and really slow / annoying, so putting a much useful function onto F2 was probably a bad idea. They could have put what F2 did onto a different shortcut. For instance, they could make F2 something that was infrequently useful and unintrusive, then made F3 do what F2 did. So if you mispress, you don't do the even worse F1 thing.

Again, per the link prior: this standard predates even Office itself. They could have not followed the standard, but then they would have angered users for not following standards used elsewhere in PC applications at the time.

F2 has long been "Rename Object" and F3 has long been "Find" (though Excel in this case doesn't use it for that, but that's another matter). Did IBM do enough user studies at the time? I'm not sure IBM could have found a user study to predict the order of those choices being irritating to Excel users two and half decades later.

Even then, too, the IBM CUA I pointed to was partly synthetic, pulling in commonalities from apps at the time of its writing. Given F2 is nearly universal as "Rename Object" [1], I've got a feeling it predates the IBM CUA by quite a bit in some heavily used applications, but I'm not a historian.

Office never existed in a vacuum, and the function keys have had common meanings for decades. Microsoft used a mix of the IBM CUA guidelines and presumably what they were seeing from the competition (Lotus 1-2-3 and VisiCalc especially for Excel early in its history). If they put the useful function of F2 somewhere else, they would have broken the muscle memory of so many other PC users, even early in Excel's history. If they moved it today there might be riots, some rioting even by the same people removing F1 keys from keyboards.

[1] You can see it on this chart and compare it with most of its neighbors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_keyboard_shortcuts

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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Windows help and Windows troubeshooter are among the two most useless things in the OS (and lately it's Cortana). It far easier and more relevant to just do a Google search than waste time with these things. Same goes for answers.microsoft.com, whenever i see that link on top og Google results I'm pretty sure I'll just waste 10 minutes of my life and then search for the same thing on Stackexchange and pray to god som…

I remember Visual C++ 6 where F1 would instantly go to and offline reference to the current symbol, similar to Qt Creator now. It was great. Of course now it searches done Windows live forum or something and is 100% useless.

AFAIK pressing F1 in Visual Studio takes you to the top Bing result for the text under the cursor within MSDN. This could be the reference you were looking for, a reference for something completely different in a different programming language (a lot of potentially helpful context is not considered) or in extreme cases some other random article or discussion. It's all over the place.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

#154

Windows help and Windows troubeshooter are among the two most useless things in the OS (and lately it's Cortana). It far easier and more relevant to just do a Google search than waste time with these things. Same goes for answers.microsoft.com, whenever i see that link on top og Google results I'm pretty sure I'll just waste 10 minutes of my life and then search for the same thing on Stackexchange and pray to god som…

I remember Visual C++ 6 where F1 would instantly go to and offline reference to the current symbol, similar to Qt Creator now. It was great. Of course now it searches done Windows live forum or something and is 100% useless.

I can't believe that I've used Qt Creator for three years and never knew that.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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How can you do that???

Use Karabiner and the first one here: https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/complex_modifications/

Isn't the hardcore move to map Caps Lock to Hyper?

http://brettterpstra.com/2017/06/15/a-hyper-key-with-karabin...

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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This may be 90% cargo culting, 10% reality. One of my former co-workers desperately wanted to be perceived as an Excel ninja, and had heard that people who had achieved guru-level Excel mastery would remove their F1 keys, and so one day pried off her F1 key. Meanwhile the person in our office who probably could have written Minecraft in Excel and then built an Excel simulator in Excel Minecraft had a keyboard with a…

Caps lock to control is also super useful for switching tabs in safari. I miss it on my iPad keyboard.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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Windows help and Windows troubeshooter are among the two most useless things in the OS (and lately it's Cortana). It far easier and more relevant to just do a Google search than waste time with these things. Same goes for answers.microsoft.com, whenever i see that link on top og Google results I'm pretty sure I'll just waste 10 minutes of my life and then search for the same thing on Stackexchange and pray to god som…

I've never been helped by nor successfully troubleshot anything with either of those. And I'm baffled why a glorified text document which rarely contains any useful information grinds my beefy gaming computer to a halt.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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Back in my Engineer days, where I'd spend much of my time writing technical reports, I'd always remove the Insert key from my keyboard. It's sitting there in that block of six keys that you use all the time when editing text (home, end, page up/down, delete), and it's a little timebomb. You would invariably hit it by accident at some point and change your editor into "overwrite all my stuff" mode. It would usually ta…

Before Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V to copy and paste, the usual method was Ctrl+Ins and Shift+Ins (and Shift+Del for cut), so this key did have a lot of use back in the day. These key combinations still work in most Windows software.

I use those combos when mousing left-handed (I'm right-handed, but ambidextrous with the mouse due to RSI issues).

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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In my view, there are many insights like this to be had by physically studying product users a bit more. The startup community has built a strong habit of studying users before a new solution is adopted, but not as much after. The insights designers get from just watching someone use a product are always delightful. The idea is basically ethnography for design. ( https://www.interaction-design.org/literature/book/the…

When my dad was doing some UI work back in like the late 70s, maybe early 80s, for call-center workers no one knew how to do UI yet. But he quickly realised that if you put people in a room and asked them for their feedback after using it for 20 minutes, what they told you would become useless when you actually deployed the software. So he pushed to have the software implement recording features like how long a person is on at which page and which page they went to next. I'm surprised more people don't do that even today when it shouldn't be that much of a technical challenge. Just "here's a trial copy of the software: use it for two weeks and come back to us with your data."
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