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Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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post #49

These type of articles never explore the potential results of the Rotten Tomatoes voting system. As the article mentions the RT rating is not a measure of how good a movie is, it is a measure of the percentage of people who viewed the movie positively. A 100% doesn't mean a movie is perfect or even particularly good, it means no one thought it was bad. A movie designed to do well on a RT score needs to please everyon…

Those films are now done by Netflix and Amazon. Just a different model. I used to go to an indie theater twice a week when I was in college and saw every niche film. But those theaters hardly exist any more. The big theater experience just isn't cut out for that. It's barely pleasant enough to go see the latest popcorn movie.

The industry really needs to take at-home seriously.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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post #4

I think more than anything what we need is more movies made by low-budget places. I really don't want to see another sequel, redo, or comic book movie. It's just lazy on the part of the movie companies.

I agree, but this exists to a significant extent already (though more would be great) - it's a really, really good time to be into low-budget indie flicks. The problem is that your local multiplex is not going to be showing independent films, nor are they going to be blasting marketing cranked up to 11 on all channels, so it's much harder to hear about them, and in some cases, much harder to see them period. But the…

It's also interesting to me how some of the stigma associated with VOD and straight to video releases has gone away. It's a pretty great time for film and television.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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post #49

These type of articles never explore the potential results of the Rotten Tomatoes voting system. As the article mentions the RT rating is not a measure of how good a movie is, it is a measure of the percentage of people who viewed the movie positively. A 100% doesn't mean a movie is perfect or even particularly good, it means no one thought it was bad. A movie designed to do well on a RT score needs to please everyon…

> It is safer to invest in the next mediocre superhero movie

Thus leading to those "trends" people get faux-excited for (I say that as they completely forget the 'hype' over previous ones when the next one hits) and masking the problem in the first place.

Anyways, "safe but boring" is finance's bread and butter, so looking to big-budget flicks to take risks in the pursuit of good art is a lost cause. They only care insofar as they can get emmy attention to up sales.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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No one is killing the movie industry. Here are the stats: http://www.mpaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/MPAA-Theatric...

Good find, seems that the industry is doing just fine:

In 2016, U.S./Canada box office was $11.4 billion, up two percent from $11.1 billion in 2015. Admissions, or tickets sold (1.32 billion), held steady compared to 2015. Moviegoer Trends  More than two-thirds (71%) of the U.S./Canada population – or 246 million people – went to the cinema at least once in 2016, a two percent increase from 2015. Frequent moviegoers – individuals who go to the cinema once a month or more – continue to drive the movie industry, accounting for 48 percent of all tickets sold in the United States and Canada.  The number of frequent moviegoers increased in 2016. However, the number of tickets purchased by frequent moviegoers decreased. This was offset by an increase in the tickets purchased by occasional moviegoers (moviegoers who attended less than once a month).

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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The day the movie industry allows me to legally stream a "just released movie" straight to my 4k tv (or my phone), that day, they will have the same or more revenue as before. Until that happen, i would definitely check the ratings/reviews before spending solid amount of money and time on "going" to the cinema.

I'm not sure I would do the same. Going to the theater isn't such a limitation for me. My holdup is that movies are very rarely good. Even if they were free to my TV I wouldn't watch a lot of blockbusters.

You're right that they should make it easier to consume their content but they should also try making something watchable first.

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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The day the movie industry allows me to legally stream a "just released movie" straight to my 4k tv (or my phone), that day, they will have the same or more revenue as before. Until that happen, i would definitely check the ratings/reviews before spending solid amount of money and time on "going" to the cinema.

I have a nice television, but I still prefer going to a good theater to see movies. There are a few theater operators that have figured out that just showing the movie and selling expensive popcorn isn't good enough. They have to have comfortable seats, decent food, great drinks, rules against talking and using phones, and reserved seating. When the experience is good, I'll pay to see movies I already know well. For…

Power lanes? It will never work! The best time to sell someone a product is months after their initial exposure when they have forgotten completely about it. /s

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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post #24

I once plotted the TSPDT Top 1000 movies by year. That's an all-time ranking voted by critics. The distribution plot peaks around the 1970s and declines since then. For one, post-war European cinema was really great and influenced the American industry. Now all major movies originate in the same place. The last fresh blood had come mostly from Latin America, Mexico in particular. And the place for experiments changed…

The movie industry has eras, marked by certain production styles. In Hollywood at least, the 1970s was the era of the auteur director. A wave of directors (and actors) who had apprenticed under the famed B-movie master Roger Corman came to power on the strength of a series of absolute masterpieces. It started with Easy Rider , which was shot on a very low budget, and received massive box office success and critical a…

Easy Rider, Raging Bull by Peter Siskind is a great read about all this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easy_Riders,_Raging_Bulls

Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are

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I once plotted the TSPDT Top 1000 movies by year. That's an all-time ranking voted by critics. The distribution plot peaks around the 1970s and declines since then. For one, post-war European cinema was really great and influenced the American industry. Now all major movies originate in the same place. The last fresh blood had come mostly from Latin America, Mexico in particular. And the place for experiments changed…

Art? I always thought movies were about entertainment.

Shh. Don't rock the boat. It annoys the philistines.

Art used to be about worship, but then there was a change of management and it got to be about advertising (and entertainment, to sweeten the pill), and now ... it's complicated.

Some of it is still telling tall tales to distract the rubes, some is just hoarding portable riches, some is category failure. Worship is right out.

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