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Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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Hooray! Andy was my officemate when he was working on this. I have a copy of the thread mentioned in the article.

Andy was my officemate when he was working on this Can you elaborate on this a bit? You'd have been about 10 at the time (1984), wouldn't you?

I think joshu meant "when he was working on getting the code released."

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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What I want to know is why the latest Apple OS doesn't come with a paint program.

I guess they assume everyone just pirates photoshop.

Acorn 2 has a free version which already packs quite a punch, FWIW.

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If you haven't been, and you're in the bay area, you really should go here. Sure, the nostalgia is wonderful, but they take their work seriously. Last time I went I was talking with one of the docents about an effort they were taking to get the original Unix v1.0 source collected and compiling.

Yes, yes, yes. This is a wonderful place. I visited it when it was just a shack on Moffett Field and now it's in the old SGI building.

If you are in the UK and can't make it to CA then a substitute is the National Museum of Computing: http://tnmoc.org/ It doesn't have the depth of the collection seen in Mountain View, but it does have some wonderful pieces. And the staff worked on the machines that are on display. Got the opportunity to show my SO core memory the other day.

They are currently restoring WITCH to working order: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WITCH_(computer) WITCH used the coolest memory ever: the dekatron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dekatron). Once WITCH is restored seeing those things glow and rotate is going to make it look like a computer ought to look.

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal_(programming_language) : "Pascal was the primary high-level language used for development in the Apple Lisa, and in the early years of the Mac; parts of the original Macintosh operating system were hand-translated into Motorola 68000 assembly language from the Pascal sources. ...the C interface for the Macintosh operating system API had to deal in Pascal data types." My memory…

It's interesting that there was such a notion, as C was never popular on mainframes.

I think he meant mini computers.

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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If you haven't been, and you're in the bay area, you really should go here. Sure, the nostalgia is wonderful, but they take their work seriously. Last time I went I was talking with one of the docents about an effort they were taking to get the original Unix v1.0 source collected and compiling.

Yes, yes, yes. This is a wonderful place. I visited it when it was just a shack on Moffett Field and now it's in the old SGI building. If you are in the UK and can't make it to CA then a substitute is the National Museum of Computing: http://tnmoc.org/ It doesn't have the depth of the collection seen in Mountain View, but it does have some wonderful pieces. And the staff worked on the machines that are on display. Go…

Somewhat related, though the exhibits aren't as nice- The National Cryptologic Museum in Maryland. If nothing else, it's an excuse to venture on to the grounds at Ft. Meade.

When I visited a number of years back, there was a guy selling cell phones on a little folding table outside the front door. Which seemed...odd...for any number of reasons, given the location.

http://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic_heritage/museum/

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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Yes, yes, yes. This is a wonderful place. I visited it when it was just a shack on Moffett Field and now it's in the old SGI building. If you are in the UK and can't make it to CA then a substitute is the National Museum of Computing: http://tnmoc.org/ It doesn't have the depth of the collection seen in Mountain View, but it does have some wonderful pieces. And the staff worked on the machines that are on display. Go…

Somewhat related, though the exhibits aren't as nice- The National Cryptologic Museum in Maryland. If nothing else, it's an excuse to venture on to the grounds at Ft. Meade. When I visited a number of years back, there was a guy selling cell phones on a little folding table outside the front door. Which seemed...odd...for any number of reasons, given the location. http://www.nsa.gov/about/cryptologic_heritage/museum/

Agreed. That is also a great place. And if you like that sort of things there's always my book.

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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Initially I wondered why MacPaint wasn't written in C, but I'm rather grateful it's in Pascal; it's surprisingly easy to read! Although, I suppose Bill Atkinson deserves the credit for that.

Pascal and C were the subject of protracted language wars, with all the usual accouterments involved with those.

Pascal was very common back then; UCSD Pascal and pCode and Terak boxes were all over the place back in college.

Apple was (then) built on Pascal, and this was markedly different from C on SunOS, ULTRIX VAX and RISC/MIPS, AT&T S3 and SVID,and the early (buggy) VAX C on the odd VMS boxes.

(Java still reminds me of that Pascal and pCode implementation.)

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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I guess they assume everyone just pirates photoshop.

Acorn 2 has a free version which already packs quite a punch, FWIW.

Why use freeware instead of something like Gimp? http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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Andy was my officemate when he was working on this Can you elaborate on this a bit? You'd have been about 10 at the time (1984), wouldn't you?

I think joshu meant "when he was working on getting the code released."

thanks.

could also have been when folklore.org was written too, I guess

Re: Apple Donates MacPaint Source Code To Computer History Museum

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What I want to know is why the latest Apple OS doesn't come with a paint program.

The closest modern relative to MacPaint is probably the paint program in ClarisWorks/AppleWorks, which was ported to Carbon and runs on OS X. AppleWorks was bundled with all new Mac hardware up until the switch from PPC to Intel in 2006; I still have my copy that came with my iBook G4, still works in Snow Leopard, still reads files created with the original 128k MacPaint. (And my iBook G4 ran MacPaint v2.0, circa 198…

- Acorn: http://flyingmeat.com/acorn/
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