FedEx vs. UPS: opposing models in the delivery business raise questions (2004) • Hacker News Board

Re: FedEx vs. UPS: opposing models in the delivery business raise questions (2004)

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Post by RightMillennial » Thu, Sep 21, 2017, 2:54 PM UTC

adekok wrote: post #72

alexibm wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work for UPS as a developer and responsible for software that manages/tracks actual deliveries and delivery window. Can you provide some information about fake delivery attempts ? I will personally make sure that if there were "fake" deliveries, you will get a refund and who ever "faked" is punished.

The typical complaint is that you're at home, waiting for a package. You check the tracking all day "on the truck". Then at one point, it says "no one home". Uh... I've been at fucking home all day. Or worse, see the truck drive by your house , followed by the tracking updated to "no one home". That's a fake delivery attempt.

That sounds like my experience with FedEx. UPS at least usually knocks.

Re: FedEx vs. UPS: opposing models in the delivery business raise questions (2004)

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Post by Consultant32452 » Thu, Sep 21, 2017, 5:45 PM UTC

katastic wrote: post #2

Perhaps I'm reading it wrong, but the article seems to slant in favor of FedEx using contractors. And then you look at the pros and cons. FedEx Ground Cons: - No benefits, no overtime pay, no sick time, no insurance - Drivers pay for vehicle, gas, supplies, insurance, and everything else - No company retirement, seemingly less stable environment - No Teamsters contract or collective bargaining - Drivers have only one…

Can you explain why you look down on pizza delivery drivers so much? Why would a person delivering random crap you bought off Amazon deserve retirement benefits but a person delivering your dinner does not?

Re: FedEx vs. UPS: opposing models in the delivery business raise questions (2004)

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Post by alexibm » Thu, Sep 21, 2017, 7:11 PM UTC

adekok wrote: post #72

alexibm wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work for UPS as a developer and responsible for software that manages/tracks actual deliveries and delivery window. Can you provide some information about fake delivery attempts ? I will personally make sure that if there were "fake" deliveries, you will get a refund and who ever "faked" is punished.

The typical complaint is that you're at home, waiting for a package. You check the tracking all day "on the truck". Then at one point, it says "no one home". Uh... I've been at fucking home all day. Or worse, see the truck drive by your house , followed by the tracking updated to "no one home". That's a fake delivery attempt.

Can you email me the tracking number of the "fake" delivery to adorfman@ups.com ? I will pull GPS coordinates + other data for you, of where & when the delivery was made/attempted.

Re: FedEx vs. UPS: opposing models in the delivery business raise questions (2004)

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Post by katastic » Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 4:46 PM UTC

Consultant32452 wrote: post #82

katastic wrote: post #2

Perhaps I'm reading it wrong, but the article seems to slant in favor of FedEx using contractors. And then you look at the pros and cons. FedEx Ground Cons: - No benefits, no overtime pay, no sick time, no insurance - Drivers pay for vehicle, gas, supplies, insurance, and everything else - No company retirement, seemingly less stable environment - No Teamsters contract or collective bargaining - Drivers have only one…

Can you explain why you look down on pizza delivery drivers so much? Why would a person delivering random crap you bought off Amazon deserve retirement benefits but a person delivering your dinner does not?

You really should look into your projection. I'm arguing for MORE benefits for workers, not less, but you couldn't see it because of your pre-built biases before you ever read my comment. You're looking for a moral battle to the point you're attacking allies.