.Cat Domain a Casualty in Catalonian Independence Crackdown
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Re: .Cat Domain a Casualty in Catalonian Independence Crackdown
#2.cat domains work properly, e.g. http://www.elperiodico.cat (tested from Barcelona)
TL;DR: if you break the law, expect to get punished. The operators knew they were breaking the law, so involved sites in that domain were blocked. I.e. not a ".cat" generic blockage, but a specific action driven from a court.
Re: .Cat Domain a Casualty in Catalonian Independence Crackdown
#3.cat domains work properly, e.g. http://www.elperiodico.cat (tested from Barcelona) TL;DR: if you break the law, expect to get punished. The operators knew they were breaking the law, so involved sites in that domain were blocked. I.e. not a ".cat" generic blockage, but a specific action driven from a court.
Did you even read the article? Or did you just jerk-reply in an effort to criticize people or the movement?
> First, the content in question here is essentially political speech, which the European Court of Human Rights has ruled as deserving of a higher level of protection than some other forms of speech. Even though the speech concerns a referendum that has been ruled illegal, the speech does not in itself pose any imminent threat to life or limb.
What the Spanish government did is considered censorship under any reasonable system of law. Justifying one "wrong" with another is not gonna get anyone anywhere anytime. But since the Spanish government is fond of censorship, this reaction shouldn't come as a surprise.
Re: .Cat Domain a Casualty in Catalonian Independence Crackdown
#4Also, the didn't government didn't ruled the referendum illegal a constitutional COURT did it. And the detentions and search were ordered by a JUDGE from Barcelona that not long ago was awarded by the same Catalan government that now is criticizing him.
Please read this to know the facts: https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/09/20/inenglish/1505917320_78...
Re: .Cat Domain a Casualty in Catalonian Independence Crackdown
#5.cat domains work properly, e.g. http://www.elperiodico.cat (tested from Barcelona) TL;DR: if you break the law, expect to get punished. The operators knew they were breaking the law, so involved sites in that domain were blocked. I.e. not a ".cat" generic blockage, but a specific action driven from a court.
I am trying to follow the situation in Catalonia, and I have one question: Is any kind of publication (done by private citizens) about the referendum actually illegal in Spain? Thanks.
Re: .Cat Domain a Casualty in Catalonian Independence Crackdown
#6.cat domains work properly, e.g. http://www.elperiodico.cat (tested from Barcelona) TL;DR: if you break the law, expect to get punished. The operators knew they were breaking the law, so involved sites in that domain were blocked. I.e. not a ".cat" generic blockage, but a specific action driven from a court.
Did you even read the article? Or did you just jerk-reply in an effort to criticize people or the movement? > First, the content in question here is essentially political speech, which the European Court of Human Rights has ruled as deserving of a higher level of protection than some other forms of speech. Even though the speech concerns a referendum that has been ruled illegal, the speech does not in itself pose any…
> What the Spanish government did is considered censorship under any reasonable system of law.
That's simply put... bulshit, I'm far from supporting the ultra right wing catholic goverment from Madrid, but spreading plain lies to victimize yourself doesn't make them true.
Re: .Cat Domain a Casualty in Catalonian Independence Crackdown
#7.cat domains work properly, e.g. http://www.elperiodico.cat (tested from Barcelona) TL;DR: if you break the law, expect to get punished. The operators knew they were breaking the law, so involved sites in that domain were blocked. I.e. not a ".cat" generic blockage, but a specific action driven from a court.
I am trying to follow the situation in Catalonia, and I have one question: Is any kind of publication (done by private citizens) about the referendum actually illegal in Spain? Thanks.
Not about the referendum, but about what happened last days:
https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/09/20/inenglish/1505917320_78...
Re: .Cat Domain a Casualty in Catalonian Independence Crackdown
#8The .cat domain was seized because the organization in charge of the domain IGNORED the orders issued by a JUDGE. So saying:
> "If such content is unlawful, a court order directed to the publisher or host of that content is the appropriate way for authorities to deal with that illegality, rather than the blanket removal of entire domains from the Internet."
Is simply put, bulshit. A court ordered taking down illegal calls to a referendum not approved by a democratic consitution. If that was ignored, someone had to take action.
Re: .Cat Domain a Casualty in Catalonian Independence Crackdown
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you even read the article? Or did you just jerk-reply in an effort to criticize people or the movement? > First, the content in question here is essentially political speech, which the European Court of Human Rights has ruled as deserving of a higher level of protection than some other forms of speech. Even though the speech concerns a referendum that has been ruled illegal, the speech does not in itself pose any…
> What the Spanish government did is considered censorship under any reasonable system of law. That's simply put... bulshit, I'm far from supporting the ultra right wing catholic goverment from Madrid, but spreading plain lies to victimize yourself doesn't make them true.
Could you elaborate why it is bullshit? Parent's comment seems to be a very good point. Is he factually incorrect? How?
Re: .Cat Domain a Casualty in Catalonian Independence Crackdown
#10.cat domains work properly, e.g. http://www.elperiodico.cat (tested from Barcelona) TL;DR: if you break the law, expect to get punished. The operators knew they were breaking the law, so involved sites in that domain were blocked. I.e. not a ".cat" generic blockage, but a specific action driven from a court.
Did you even read the article? Or did you just jerk-reply in an effort to criticize people or the movement? > First, the content in question here is essentially political speech, which the European Court of Human Rights has ruled as deserving of a higher level of protection than some other forms of speech. Even though the speech concerns a referendum that has been ruled illegal, the speech does not in itself pose any…
There's a system of law in Spain, is called the constitution. And the unilateral call for seccession or doing a referendum not allowed by the constitution or the courts is not allowed in any democracy.
I'm in favor of a referendum so the catalans can decide if they want to be in Spain or not. But I'm not in favor of a unilateral decision.