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Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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post #8

At least this is one problem new MacBook users won't have!

for me it's ⌘+W vs ⌘+Q in Firefox: the first closes the current tab, the second the whole browser which takes some time to restart. Solved it now with an add-on

Which is why I thought that the hold-⌘-Q to close Chrome was a godsend! Apparently this is also a feature with Firefox: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/824072

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

#22
post #8

At least this is one problem new MacBook users won't have!

for me it's ⌘+W vs ⌘+Q in Firefox: the first closes the current tab, the second the whole browser which takes some time to restart. Solved it now with an add-on

This was a long standing bug for Firefox but they fixed it a couple of months ago. (The bug was about Firefox not honoring the macOS's key remapping.)

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

#23
post #11
post #2

This should really be solved in software... However, I remember trying to map capslock to control on windows a few years back. It involved becoming an administrator and entering an opaque hexadecimal key into the registry. Simply popping off the key is probably easier. Oh, on linux it boils down to "setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps", which doesn't require root...

An official keymap editor exists for Windows, but it's not terribly well supported, and I can see how using it would be a hassle especially if you're not technically inclined: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10...

I did not know that tool. Also, apparently it cannot map control keys...

https://superuser.com/questions/413384/how-to-remap-control-...

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

#24
post #6

tl;dr F1 is generally help . Excel's help is apparently slow to load and close. Hence, the interviewees removed the key to avoid pressing it, when they meant to press F2. It's disappointing but unsurprising they didn't just have windows (autohotkey?) map it to F2.

I am not aware of any F1 help screen that is of any use on windows.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

#25

There are dozens of us. It's massively disrupting to the state of flow to miss a key by one, and suddenly another window pops up, but there's no text inside. It takes several seconds for the window to compose itself, and several more to close. I do keep the F1 key somewhere safe, to put back onto the keyboard, for the next keyboard user.

"If it is slow, it is wrong."

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

#26
post #7

Why would not they remap F1 to something else, say another F2 if they so like it? The functionality has been at both Linux and Windows for a very long time.

AFAIK, Windows has never had a built-in way to remap keys. Sure, you can download third-party tools to do it, but that's often a dicey move in a corporate environment where you aren't allowed to install third-party software.

I'm really surprised more keyboards can't do this kind of simple remapping themselves. I used to remap the keys on virtually every machine I worked on, but these days I just bring in my CODE keyboard which does some simple remapping itself (e.g., caps lock -> ctrl).

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

#27
post #2

This should really be solved in software... However, I remember trying to map capslock to control on windows a few years back. It involved becoming an administrator and entering an opaque hexadecimal key into the registry. Simply popping off the key is probably easier. Oh, on linux it boils down to "setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps", which doesn't require root...

On MacOS it Just Works (at least for modifier keys) :) https://i.imgur.com/Bt1X7Nq.png

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

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post #24
post #6

tl;dr F1 is generally help . Excel's help is apparently slow to load and close. Hence, the interviewees removed the key to avoid pressing it, when they meant to press F2. It's disappointing but unsurprising they didn't just have windows (autohotkey?) map it to F2.

I am not aware of any F1 help screen that is of any use on windows.

Just tried it in visual studio. loads up a web browser. that is irresponsible.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

#29
post #13

I would guess that PCs in banks are quite locked down, maybe even making it impossible to remap keys. But everyone can pop some keys from his/her keyboard. Plus it's a much easier (and fun) office mod than messing around in the settings of all your applications ;)

Correct – even for developers in DMZ networks have a hard time getting to install things they need to work. Many organizations have convoluted processes for requesting admin access to your machine. Even if you do get access it doesn't mean you necessarily can even download things, most have firewalls that block binaries from anything but "trusted" sources (basically white listed domains, so yeah – "trust".) In a few cases, monitoring on machines have raised red flags and I've had to explain after the fact why I've installed or run a particular piece of software, and in some cases got a proverbial wrist slap and things/access reset.

It's all for good reasons I'm sure, but some processes and rules are so opaque and convoluted and arbitrary, plucking keys off a keyboard is much easier.

Source: I've worked as a developer in mostly top tier banks since 2011.

Re: Some Excel users pop F1 off their keyboards (2012)

#30
I wish I could remove "F1" from Chrome: I'm in the middle of a lot of tabs, reading them after each other and accidentially pressing F1 instead of ESC and a new useless help tab obens on the far right.

Luckily if I close it immediately without navigating, Chrome is clever enough to return me to the last tab

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