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Addison Lee is a good alternative. Drivers tend to be a bit more professional, prices are not that much higher and cars are generally nice.
Their previously voiced views on cyclists should be taken into account though. http://road.cc/content/news/56999-addison-lee-chairman-airs-... The Keen Group have always been reliable for us (but could hold similar views for all I know)
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More UK cabs need to start allowing cars payments. Instead they use their local monopolies to force cash use and under declare taxable income.
"You wanna pay £8 with card? Really?" That's when I stopped using black cabs.
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There are lots of private hire car firms, Addison Lee springs to mind immediately. And practically every street in the city has a minicab firm...
Not that I use Uber (not really necessary in Edinburgh and they don't operate where I live) - but one of the problems with there being so many taxi and minicab firms is how do you tell which ones are actually any good when traveling to a new location? I've had great experiences with taxis, but also appalling ones... At least Uber seemed to be trying to solve that problem - shame they decided to solve a real problem w…
The behaviour of Uber has been terrible, and it's a shame they don't operate much more like a passenger->service matching system with ratings, rather that operating their own fleet kinda-sorta-maybe (but they're all self-employed!)
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>> Who said anything about them seeking to become a worldwide cab monopoly? They behave as if they are attempting this, IMHO. >> They are a cab company I believe, depending on which way the wind was blowing, they might dispute this. Their argument is that they are not a cab company, merely a service for connecting drivers and potential passengers. This is how they avoid pesky things like employment laws. >> Any other…
> They behave as if they are attempting this, IMHO. Every rational company should behave as if they're attempting to become a monopoly, this is a completely meaningless point to argue either way.
Some people aren't primarily motivated by power and profit.
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#187If they can't or won't reform then excellent, let's be rid of them. I don't want to give any business to a company that are seeking to become a worldwide cab monopoly, and squirrel away any profits to the US. We have a perfectly healthy cab ecosystem in my city, app-driven and with fare competition and city regulation. Which I suppose is why Uber, though present, hasn't really taken off here. That said, talk of profi…
Most Uber-sized companies squirrel the profits to tax havens in the Caribbean. Getting the profits to the reach of the US tax system would be unexpected.
Conveniently, a few minutes going through public financial statements disproves that outlandish, comical premise.
3M, McDonald's, Wells Fargo, Citigroup, Bank of America, AT&T, Delta, UPS, Disney, Pepsi, Coca Cola, Honeywell, Intel, Walgreens, Goldman Sachs, Walmart, Boeing, Visa, Comcast, Altria, Exxon, Chevron, Nike, Honeywell, Intel, Merck, Pfizer, Cisco, Oracle, Procter & Gamble, Caterpillar, etc.
They're all going to be very upset to discover the 20-35% tax rates they've been paying on their earnings, they could easily have avoided by just squirreling it away in the Caribbean.
One could also do a few minutes of research:
"The average effective tax rate among S&P companies that had posted calendar fourth-quarter results as of Friday was 24.11 percent"
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/13/tax-cuts-sp-500-may-not-get-...
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#18840,000 jobs.. No coincidence this comes a day before Labour Party conference.
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#189The license is not being renewed not because TfL isn't interested in innovation (they actively encourage it), not to retain power for the black cab drivers, and not because London isn't interested in companies like Uber operating here.
It's because of the rapes.
The Metropolitan Police (the part of the UK police force that polices London), has objected to their license.
In 2015 alone, they had to deal with 32 cases of Uber drivers raping or sexually assaulting lone female passengers.
In the entire history of the hackney carriage (black cab) license - going back to 1662 - I know of only one case of a driver having been prosecuted for rape, about 5 years ago.
Uber is not reporting crimes, not co-operating with the police when they are reported, is not doing suitable background checks on criminality or medical suitability for being a private hire driver on its "workforce", and there is suspicion that they are both price gouging and specifically trying to go around the private hire regulations they claim to support.
Also from the TfL statement:
> The Private Hire Vehicles (London) Act 1998 includes provision to appeal a licensing decision within 21 days of it being communicated to the applicant. Uber London Limited can continue to operate until any appeal processes have been exhausted.
That means they're not shutting up shop soon, they can appeal in the next 8 days, then continue to operate until the appeals process is over.
That means if they start dealing with driver checks, crime reports and regulations properly within the time frame of the appeals process (which can be years), they'll be allowed to continue to operate.
As a Londoner, I'm OK with that. If they aren't interested in conducting criminal record checks, medical checks, making sure my gf is safe when travelling alone, etc. I don't want them in my city.
If the regulators bring about these changes, they are doing their job and I'm happy for them to scare the holy fuck out of Uber and their management team in the process to make that happen.
In the meantime, other operators have upped their game a lot in recent years whilst Uber has been operating. Addison Lee (one of the larger private hire firms) has an app almost as good as Uber's, with fixed cost pricing.
We will not miss Uber if they go, they are going to need to show that they are worthy of being a part of the diverse and amazing London community if they wish to remain.
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Here's the spec requirements for a taximeter: http://content.tfl.gov.uk/taximeter-specification-1.pdf There's no requirement to log information (let alone store it for future upload), only that the taximeter is audited (for distance accuracy) every 12 months or so, and that it has updated fare structures (which modern ones do over GSM/GPRS).
Even more interesting - https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/taxis-and-private-hire/accepting... "Every driver must accept card and contactless payments and provide receipts for those payments upon request. All taxis must have a fully working TfL-approved fixed card payment device fitted within the passenger compartment - a handheld-only device will not be sufficient to meet the licensing requirements. Any taxi found not to m…