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Uber London loses licence to operate

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Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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post #62

Thinking it through - Uber (indirectly) leads to 40,000 drivers being employed (if I read correctly). I suspect this is just TfL flexing their muscles and Uber will use these 21 days to find a compromise...

I think they are self-employed, and not employed by Uber.

I think that is the situation that Uber would prefer, but sadly (for them) not: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/28/uber-uk-t...

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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post #40

If they can't or won't reform then excellent, let's be rid of them. I don't want to give any business to a company that are seeking to become a worldwide cab monopoly, and squirrel away any profits to the US. We have a perfectly healthy cab ecosystem in my city, app-driven and with fare competition and city regulation. Which I suppose is why Uber, though present, hasn't really taken off here. That said, talk of profi…

> a company that are seeking to become a worldwide cab monopoly Who said anything about them seeking to become a worldwide cab monopoly? They are a cab company, expanding globally. Any other company can do that too, if they want.

Not if they want, if they have enough cash to burn as Uber does.

Just look at Lyft, they don't have the bankroll of Uber to play so it's very hard to compete on the global scale when your competitor is basically playing a price dumping scheme with investors' money.

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

#123
post #62

Thinking it through - Uber (indirectly) leads to 40,000 drivers being employed (if I read correctly). I suspect this is just TfL flexing their muscles and Uber will use these 21 days to find a compromise...

I think they are self-employed, and not employed by Uber.

https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/asla...

Court rules drivers are employees, Uber's appeal starts next week.

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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post #86

I don't understand why Uber can't get their shit together. In the US they have competition from Lyft and I can almost understand why they have to push the boundaries. In London they have very little competition and therefore don't need to engage is controversial business practices. Personally I don't see what my alternative will be if their service ceases, they have that little competition. Although I am kind of anno…

> none of these are as convenient or cost effective as Uber. I disagree, and let me tell you why: https://i.imgur.com/JITqdiP.png I have blocked out the location of my home and the identity of my "driver", but this guy shouldn't be driving, let alone driving a passenger. I'm never riding Uber again. > I can see the night tube getting a lot more use but I know quite a few people who don't like to take it after having…

Did you contact Uber about that trip? Their business ethics seem to be generally shitty, sure, but they should be very quick to refund especially in such a clear case.

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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post #40

If they can't or won't reform then excellent, let's be rid of them. I don't want to give any business to a company that are seeking to become a worldwide cab monopoly, and squirrel away any profits to the US. We have a perfectly healthy cab ecosystem in my city, app-driven and with fare competition and city regulation. Which I suppose is why Uber, though present, hasn't really taken off here. That said, talk of profi…

What profits? Aren't they problematically loss making?

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tube is fine for the most part but it can be a drag going from the eastern parts of London to LHR directly (or to Paddington or Victoria)

Addison Lee is a good alternative. Drivers tend to be a bit more professional, prices are not that much higher and cars are generally nice.

I'd not sure I'd call the AL drivers professional. A number of them are complete psychopaths around the Heathrow area.

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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Full details: https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/911175207871762432 Criteria failed on: 1) Criminal reporting 2) Medical certificates 3) something about DBS checks 4) Use of Greyball to identify and block regulators. Edit: Updated to new tweet.. they deleted the original

Thanks for that. It's pretty bad that the BBC posts more information in a tweet than they do on their new article.

I imagine the proper news story will be updated with the hour.

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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When I have reported black cab drivers misleading passengers, lying about pricing and regulations or bus drivers driving dangerously and being rude to everyone, TfL are totally uninterested. They give the impression that they know the scams operate and don't care. It's an interesting comparison with my Uber experience, which has been almost flawless and issues are usually fixed by Uber themselves promptly.

Same experience here. Nothing done about a virtual mugging where the cabbie had no idea where he was going, shouted at me and told me I was a cunt because I wasn’t stupid enough to fall for it and pulled him up on it. I rounded his fee down to the nearest £10 and told him to sue me. I’ve seen black cab drivers shouting “Uber scum” and spitting in the windows of Uber drivers before. This isn’t want I and my wife wante…

This is where prepaid mastercards which sync up to an app on your phone come in really handy.

You get a push notification instantly as soon as a contactless transaction goes through so you know right away if you've been ripped off.

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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post #81

I don't understand why Uber can't get their shit together. In the US they have competition from Lyft and I can almost understand why they have to push the boundaries. In London they have very little competition and therefore don't need to engage is controversial business practices. Personally I don't see what my alternative will be if their service ceases, they have that little competition. Although I am kind of anno…

Where does the cost saving vs black cabs come from? Is it from drivers working for less mostly (I have seen example calculations that claim that)? Then the fundamental innovation of Uber is not to make things more efficient but to eliminate labor laws, workers safe guards and unions. In my books, your convenience is not really a good argument for getting rid of those.

Unions aren't a good way to set prices. Wages in each industry shouldn't be set by how hard it is to unionize them and how well they capture regulators to ban competition. We need to find a better way.

Noone in London sheds a tear for black cab drivers, Uber just exposed the extent of their price fixing racket.

The innovation in making it much much faster and easier to hail a cab.

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