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Uber London loses licence to operate

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Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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Is this the first domino? Will France (and other European countries) then turn around and say, ah oui we too don't think Uber is fit to operate. Uber is pretty crappy in London, I had one the other night and the guy wasn't even the guy who's picture was on the app (yes the driver did not match the registered uber driver). This is before we even get onto the fact that he didn't know where he was going.

Germany has practically banned Uber for sometime now.

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#53
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Actually it doesn’t. In many places your regular driving license becomes void as soon as you have a single paying passenger, and it becomes driving without a license, and you get a fine. Germany is one such place. Good news is, a driving license for with passengers is just an additional test that will overall set you back less than 100 Euros. And, additionally, your insurance becomes void as soon as you have a paying…

That's a new thing to me. I was driving in Germany several times with passengers and I didn't know my current driving license isn't good for it. I even rented a car at the airport and Hertz clerk haven't mentioned anything, despite seeing me approaching with friends. They only asked if there are drivers, not passengers. So how does it work?

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Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

#54

I don't understand why Uber can't get their shit together. In the US they have competition from Lyft and I can almost understand why they have to push the boundaries. In London they have very little competition and therefore don't need to engage is controversial business practices. Personally I don't see what my alternative will be if their service ceases, they have that little competition. Although I am kind of anno…

To be honest, few people here in London bother with taxis. Public transport is very good, can be faster than sitting in traffic, and is cheaper. Most folks ordering taxis either don't know where they are going, missed the last train or are wealthy enough to not care about the cost. Uber literally made no impact on the quality if life to your average Londoner and won't be missed.

Agree with the first part of your comment, as it relates to black cabs. Only wealthy or hapless Londoners use them. Otherwise they’re just a tourist attraction.

Strongly disagree with the latter part.

My impression was that Uber, through price and convenience, created significant demand for Private Hire travel in London where it didn’t previously exist.

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#55

Full details: https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/911175207871762432 Criteria failed on: 1) Criminal reporting 2) Medical certificates 3) something about DBS checks 4) Use of Greyball to identify and block regulators. Edit: Updated to new tweet.. they deleted the original

Hmm, does that mean they used Greyball in London, or just the known sleazy uses? British regulators, just like CARB, have famously little sense of humour for stuff like that.

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

#56
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually it doesn’t. In many places your regular driving license becomes void as soon as you have a single paying passenger, and it becomes driving without a license, and you get a fine. Germany is one such place. Good news is, a driving license for with passengers is just an additional test that will overall set you back less than 100 Euros. And, additionally, your insurance becomes void as soon as you have a paying…

That's a new thing to me. I was driving in Germany several times with passengers and I didn't know my current driving license isn't good for it. I even rented a car at the airport and Hertz clerk haven't mentioned anything, despite seeing me approaching with friends. They only asked if there are drivers, not passengers. So how does it work?

> a single _paying_ passenger

Not passengers in general.

Your Hertz terms will clearly say that you're not allowed to use the car to carry paying passengers.

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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This happens all the time in black cabs. My wife and I rely on uber all the time. It feels right for a city like London. This is a step backwards in my opinion I’d like to add that most black cab drivers make out like their card machine doesn’t work. It’s a total cash scam to avoid VAT. I’ve had a black cab deny picking me up before because I didn’t want taking very far (I had a twisted ankle and just wanted to short…

If the meter is on, it's reported and recorded income, is it not?

Is the meter connected to a server? If not, i don’t see how that would even count as accounted income.

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

#58

Is this the first domino? Will France (and other European countries) then turn around and say, ah oui we too don't think Uber is fit to operate. Uber is pretty crappy in London, I had one the other night and the guy wasn't even the guy who's picture was on the app (yes the driver did not match the registered uber driver). This is before we even get onto the fact that he didn't know where he was going.

Uber was kicked out of Hungary, I'm not sure on what pretext exactly but the gist was that the taxi drivers revolted.

(But to be fair, I think at least Budapest has excellent taxi service and didn't need an Uber. It's probably different outside the capital.)

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

#59
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To be honest, few people here in London bother with taxis. Public transport is very good, can be faster than sitting in traffic, and is cheaper. Most folks ordering taxis either don't know where they are going, missed the last train or are wealthy enough to not care about the cost. Uber literally made no impact on the quality if life to your average Londoner and won't be missed.

This seems rather subjective? Anecdotally, many of my friends and colleagues use Uber frequently, especially at night.

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Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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I don't understand why Uber can't get their shit together. In the US they have competition from Lyft and I can almost understand why they have to push the boundaries. In London they have very little competition and therefore don't need to engage is controversial business practices. Personally I don't see what my alternative will be if their service ceases, they have that little competition. Although I am kind of anno…

To be honest, few people here in London bother with taxis. Public transport is very good, can be faster than sitting in traffic, and is cheaper. Most folks ordering taxis either don't know where they are going, missed the last train or are wealthy enough to not care about the cost. Uber literally made no impact on the quality if life to your average Londoner and won't be missed.

Sure, if you live in Zone 2, or live near a tube station and are travelling radially.

If you live further out, getting home at night can be a multi-bus, multi-hour affair. And if you're not going in or out of zone 1, the odds of their being a convenient bus route is slim, and again, diminishes the further out you get.

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