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China Bans Bitcoin Executives from Leaving Country, Miners “Preparing for Worst”

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Re: China Bans Bitcoin Executives from Leaving Country, Miners “Preparing for Worst”

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The stats don't really matter, because the market is designed to equilibrate the price: it costs 7.5 million to mine 7.5 million's worth (in expectation, net present value and all that), and always will. If you're worried about reducing your variance you can join a pool rather than mining directly.

But over what time period?

At a guess we'd be talking 6 months - 2 years - my vague memory/impression is that's roughly the timescale on which mining hardware goes from new to worthless. If you're more vertically integrated in terms of buying datacenters/chip fabs/what-have-you then I'd imagine longer.

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Tank man wasn't crushed, FYI.

We don’t know what happened to Tank Man, FYI.

I mean, I guess they could have crushed him later. But you can watch the video - he wasn't crushed after standing in front of the tank in the iconic photo.

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Tank man wasn't crushed, FYI.

No one knows what happened to tank man. More troubling is you don't seem to know what happened in Tiananmen square, are you in China? https://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/jun/02/china.johngitt...

No, I just thought it was interesting that the man in that iconic photo wasn't actually crushed. I hadn't realized until I saw the video.

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It's more charitable than "OP made an unsupported assertion in order to win promotion of their viewpoint."

It's a lot less charitable than "OP was probably referring to the fact that video evidence shows tank guy being pulled away out of sight before the tanks continued past the point where he had been standing, rather than showing the tanks just rolling over him as that comment kind of implied". If you're going to be very careful to correct people who assert that the guy wasn't crushed, you need to jump on people who say…

Your assumption was the correct one.

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It's a lot less charitable than "OP was probably referring to the fact that video evidence shows tank guy being pulled away out of sight before the tanks continued past the point where he had been standing, rather than showing the tanks just rolling over him as that comment kind of implied". If you're going to be very careful to correct people who assert that the guy wasn't crushed, you need to jump on people who say…

No one is talking about tank man. We are talking about the people who were crushed by tanks in the square. Really, most were shot, which is how I'd deal with a trouble maker being filmed like tank man. But there is evidence of tanks crushing people as per my link, which is WHY tank man is famous (plus he was photographed, other people did do it too). Are you doubting tanks rolled over and killed people?

I was talking about tank man...

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That assumption doesn't seem to be very well supported by the comment you are responding to - what makes you think they don't know what happened in Tiananmen?

It's more charitable than "OP made an unsupported assertion in order to win promotion of their viewpoint."

My assertion is supported though. Google tank man video.

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If growth is mostly currently debt fueled, that growth can easily stop and reverse when the debt is pulled back. Recession at best, depression at worst, definitely there will be a few crashes along the way. Do you think real estate can really be sustained at it's current levels? Much of it has been bought as a speculative asset (no property taxes makes that easy) with the idea that it can only keep going up because o…

The purpose of the growth, from a governance perspective, is to keep the population satisfied through a rising standard of living, and to continue to develop the country through sane budget allocations. They can continue to do that using debt, because the only risk from doing so is inflation, which they can keep low with taxes on the present debt holders. The housing market may crash: I was talking about the claim th…

It is difficult to see a case where housing crashes and the economy in general doesn't. They see a housing crash as desirable, for sure, but too much economic activity right now is tied up in real estate and infrastructure investment, they know how painful it will be. So they keep pumping up housing....

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What's the going prize on 3L.com's right now? Say, a bad combination (Q, X, Y, V, etc.)? Last time I exited this market (2008), lowest tier 3L.coms were selling for $3k

I have a 4 letter domain that sounds like a common word. What should I sell for?

email me at my username @ growthpub dot com

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So any action by a sovereign nation can always be described as "sane" or "reasonable"?

To me, calling them "crazy" is insulting to their culture and people. For the label to be justified, you'd have to argue the action contributes to ruin. For example, I think the Venezuelan leadership has made crazy decisions that are being borne out now. But, I would not put a ban on BBQ in that same category.

No you don't have to argue that, what on earth are you talking about? Good god...

Look at the way the word is used in this context. "Crazy regulatory..." That doesn't insult the culture or people, that's specifically talking about regulations. It's widely accepted that laws can be "crazy", i.e. silly, stupid, unreasonable, in every country. It's not a personal attack on the people.

Contributed to ruin...wow

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First off - no one has been dragged off, they are merely preventing the exchange operators (that are originally resident in China anyway) from leaving the country until they execute an orderly shutdown. i.e. No holidays for now, we don't want you doing a MarkK. Also, we are talking China here not NK, but don't let the facts get in the way of your point. Btw, you do have "temporary injunctions" in other parts of the w…

you're espousing the benefits of autocratic control. I am describing the trade-off. Sure, maybe China isn't dragging people off to gulags today but the point is that autocratic control means they can if they want to.

They are kidnapping or taking people away still today. They are kidnapping people like the folks in hong kong who publish books the leaders don't like, here's an article https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/17/china-behaving...
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