This is a compelling reason to use Wire over Telegram or whatsapp. I am assuming we can run our own instances though.
I would hope the sharply better security of Wire or WhatsApp would be a good reason to use them instead of Telegram.
Wire Server open sourced
11–20 of 38 posts
Re: Wire Server open sourced
#12I haven't used Wire [1] in a long time because it didn't have a way to backup and restore conversations when switching devices (Signal behaves the same way too). But I do look at the release notes whenever the client is updated. Recently I was happy to see that Wire allowed up to three accounts to be configured in the client! I also like the fact that Wire doesn't need a phone number (unlike Telegram, Signal, WhatsAp…
> But until any of these new age apps/platforms support federation and decentralized communication, there's not much use for the masses to look for servers run by specific people.
Federation of self-hosted servers and the "official cloud" seems to be on Wire's road-map, cf:
* Third paragraph of OP
* https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/5vylls/wire_end...
* Last sentence on https://medium.com/@wireapp/open-sourcing-wire-server-code-e...
Re: Wire Server open sourced
#13while wire seems better than most alternatives I prefer matrix.org/riot.im - it is not quite geared at same function but it works just as well for it.
Re: Wire Server open sourced
#14I haven't used Wire [1] in a long time because it didn't have a way to backup and restore conversations when switching devices (Signal behaves the same way too). But I do look at the release notes whenever the client is updated. Recently I was happy to see that Wire allowed up to three accounts to be configured in the client! I also like the fact that Wire doesn't need a phone number (unlike Telegram, Signal, WhatsAp…
> native multi-platform/multi-OS support Nope, just Electron.
In 2017 "native" mean "Chromium built as a library and bundled into (every) executable".
Re: Wire Server open sourced
#15This is a compelling reason to use Wire over Telegram or whatsapp. I am assuming we can run our own instances though.
I would hope the sharply better security of Wire or WhatsApp would be a good reason to use them instead of Telegram.
there are plenty of factors at play. for example:
i would hope the "not being owned by a datamining advertising giant" of wire or telegram would be a good reason to use them instead of whatsapp.
Re: Wire Server open sourced
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would hope the sharply better security of Wire or WhatsApp would be a good reason to use them instead of Telegram.
there are plenty of factors at play. for example: i would hope the "not being owned by a datamining advertising giant" of wire or telegram would be a good reason to use them instead of whatsapp.
If you're worried about supporting Facebook, use Wire. Facebook can't read WhatsApp messages, which are E2E encrypted (unlike Telegram's default). But it's a legit concern, and one that Wire addresses nicely.
You should be extremely suspicious of any messaging company that advertises client-server encryption as a privacy feature. It obviously is not.
Re: Wire Server open sourced
#17Wire is really, really exciting. I don't know if I trust its crypto anywhere near as much as I trust Signal's, and I don't know if I trust its business model as much, but featurewise it seems a healthy competitor.
Multi-device. Email-address-based. Federated [soon]. What's not to like?
Re: Wire Server open sourced
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
> native multi-platform/multi-OS support Nope, just Electron.
In 2017 "native" mean "Chromium built as a library and bundled into (every) executable".
It really doesn't.
Some people use it that way sure, but they're wrong. You can either help point it out when they make the claim or you can be a part of the problem.
Re: Wire Server open sourced
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
In 2017 "native" mean "Chromium built as a library and bundled into (every) executable".
It really doesn't. Some people use it that way sure, but they're wrong. You can either help point it out when they make the claim or you can be a part of the problem.
sarcasm.jpg
Re: Wire Server open sourced
#20I haven't used Wire [1] in a long time because it didn't have a way to backup and restore conversations when switching devices (Signal behaves the same way too). But I do look at the release notes whenever the client is updated. Recently I was happy to see that Wire allowed up to three accounts to be configured in the client! I also like the fact that Wire doesn't need a phone number (unlike Telegram, Signal, WhatsAp…
You can backup/restore Signal Desktop conversations from the Dev Tools console: `Whisper.Backup.backupToDirectory()` `Whisper.Backup.importFromDirectory()`
I can't do it on my phone though. And that's the device that might change after some time (years). AFAIK, Signal is coded explicitly to disallow backups of the data on iOS. Can't back it up with iTunes backup or on iCloud. I believe security was a reason (sacrificing UX deeply, IMO). I don't use Signal because of its comparatively poorer UX and feature set (the others I consider are Telegram and Wire). And without being able to backup conversations from an existing/old phone and restore them on a new phone, I'll never use it. I learned about this behavior the hard way during a previous switch and lost all my conversations (for some I had the patience to take screenshots).