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Re: DuckDuckGo vs Google

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People are conditioned to think Search has to work online. This was true when Google was created. No one had the processing or memory available on their desktop to search an entire index of the "useful" web. Not anymore. How large is a "useful" index of the web today? And can it fit on your laptop? The answer is yes. Can the entire thing be queried fast? The answer is yes. As an example take the entire stackexchange…

I don't think search is as simple as grepping a ton of files. Search Google for "movie where people can't have babies" and the #1 result is Children of Men. I think that's one area where Google pulls ahead of its competition is accurate results to vague queries like that and I think you need a lot of collected data from searches to provide that.

For the record anyone who hasn't seen Children of Men, do yourself favour and find it. One of the greatest and most underrated films of the last decade.

Edit: Oops turns out its 11 years old. Better make that the last two decades then. I'm gettin old

Re: DuckDuckGo vs Google

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I'm sure DDG works great if you're an American. As someone who has tried a region specific version of DDG though, I can say the results are downright terrible. Some say the DDG bangs are a solution. What do I win by doing that? It only made me resort to !g all the time, because the results were so bad. Now I use https://www.startpage.com/ with region set to Swedish. It's practically a proxy for Google search, so it g…

Works great in Ireland. Although tbh 95% of my search is not for local stuff.

Re: DuckDuckGo vs Google

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Does anyone remember how back in the day, we had Lycos, Hotbot, Yahoo, Dogpile .. a whole host of search engines. You'd go to two or three to get an idea of what was out there. People had different indexes and there were a lot of players. Today, it's just Google. I've been using DDG for a few years, but about 1/3 of the time I add an !g because I don't find the results I need on DDG. The cost of entry to the search m…

I really like the localized index idea someone posted earlier. If I could get 60% of my searches answered locally for the cost of 100 gigs of space I would use it. Even more so if I could host it on a local server somehow.

Why though? Is your connection that bad? I wouldn't want to use 100GB of precious SSD storage for something I can get instantly in the browser

Re: DuckDuckGo vs Google

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I created a website a year ago and I simply cannot find it using Google. Searching for the site title: Google - not in top 100, DDG - result 8. I am in Google, since I can search for the exact URL (which is the same as the site name), but otherwise I don't show up. It's incredibly frustrating considering the amount of no-content and repeated articles Google does return. Related, my biggest gripe with the WWW today is…

Just to be thorough; did you try this: https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/6259634?hl=en It is an extra step to make google aware of you.

I did, so the site is in Google and is crawled by Google (Analytics I believe has the option to do that). I also went through various SEO suggestions, set up Google Analytics, added meta tags, improved load speed (it's a pretty minimal static page anyway), among other things.

Re: DuckDuckGo vs Google

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!ud → Urban Dictionary (what do you mean, she's 'office cute'?) !wen → Wikipedia English !w.. → Wikipedia (two letter language code, e.g., 'nl') !wikt Wiktionary So many useful bangs.

I, too, switched to DDG, but sadly my most used bang is !g because in 1/3 cases DDG doesn't find what I am looking for.

Does DDG learn from what people !g for?

Re: DuckDuckGo vs Google

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I'm sure DDG works great if you're an American. As someone who has tried a region specific version of DDG though, I can say the results are downright terrible. Some say the DDG bangs are a solution. What do I win by doing that? It only made me resort to !g all the time, because the results were so bad. Now I use https://www.startpage.com/ with region set to Swedish. It's practically a proxy for Google search, so it g…

I do agree with that. As I am from India I find myself hitting g! or actually opening google.co.in more often than I should but I am still trying DDG and will give it few weeks more.

StartPage doesn't seem to be helpful at all. It doesn't let me select language and region separately. I need to select English UK and then it sets my region as UK. Also, it's very slow (at least for me)

Re: DuckDuckGo vs Google

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The thing with Duckduckgo is the choice has to be ideological or you will do a search again on Google again just to ensure you are not missing out. This is Google marketing and brand perception at work because Google results of late, 3 years, have been unimpressive and you have to sift through pages of useless links and content to find any relevant information beyond the usual suspects one already knows, so their int…

A few off the top of my head:

Proxied (therefore non-personalized) Google results: https://www.startpage.com/

Heavily privacy-focused, even proxying content: https://www.ixquick.eu/

Meta search engine with very feature-rich search, self-hostable: https://searx.me/

Search engine with very feature-rich search result pages: https://www.qwant.com/

Not yet released, peer-to-peer search: http://pearsearch.org/

Re: DuckDuckGo vs Google

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And don't forget to use the bangs that can allow you to check other engines results fast if you need. For people afraid of getting off google, you can always search something like '!g my-search', it works the same for youtube(!yt), google image(!gi), or even hackernews(!hn) And of course the best bang is the 'I am feeling lucky' one (!), i.e.: 'hackernews !'

I added bangs to google by defining custom search engines with a one or two letter prefix in chrome://settings/searchEngines Now if I type "h my-search" into the omnibar, it goes to google.com/search?q=site%3Anews.ycombinator.com+my-search which gives me only Google search results from HN. This is using google's algorithm (not the search bar built into whichever website like DDG) which is still the best, especially i…

That also works with bookmark keywords in Firefox. The setting is in each bookmark's properties; it takes variables (I leave it to the reader to look up the syntax).
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