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Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

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Post by perpetuity »

jrockway wrote: post #44
kloncks wrote: post #23

The best comment I've heard on this news came from John Gruber: "Here’s the list of Android phones you can buy today other than the Nexus One which support Android version 2.2: {}."

I can make meaningless statements too! "Here's the list of iPhone apps I can install on my iPhone without Apple's permission: {}" Incidentally, 2.2 (via the CM6 test) runs just fine on my Sapphire. The joy of Free Software is that I can fix my own device that is no longer the flavor of the month. T-Mobile will never give that device an Android > 2.0. But the community can, and it works much better than the stock imag…

Let me fix this for you...

you don't need apple's permission to install anything. the developer does indeed meet a requirement to be included in the App Store, but, you never need to ask Apple if you can install x, y, or z from the App Store.

Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

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Post by CamperBob »

cookiecaper wrote: post #24

Personally I don't think that Google tried very hard. I hardly ever watch TV, but I've seen TV commercials for Droid. I didn't see any for Nexus One. I upgraded from a dumb phone recently and wanted to buy a Nexus One, but T-Mobile lady told me Google required a much more expensive plan, that the buy-one-get-one free sale wasn't applicable, and that there were all other kinds of undesirable things about it. It also c…

Personally I don't think that Google tried very hard.

I don't think Google tries very hard at anything these days. Just as it historically took companies decades to reach Google's income level, Google has also accelerated the normal process of growing into a fossilized incumbent.

Say what you will about Apple, but at least they still act like they want to win.

Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

#53

Post by jwhitlark »

kloncks wrote: post #47
jrockway wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can make meaningless statements too! "Here's the list of iPhone apps I can install on my iPhone without Apple's permission: {}" Incidentally, 2.2 (via the CM6 test) runs just fine on my Sapphire. The joy of Free Software is that I can fix my own device that is no longer the flavor of the month. T-Mobile will never give that device an Android > 2.0. But the community can, and it works much better than the stock imag…

With all due respect, you're going off another tangent. Froyo, aka Android 2.2, was released on May 20. It's now July 19th, almost two months later. The fact that only one phone will support an OS for more than two months is a problem.

I wouldn't call it a problem; it's an artifact of a completely different ecosystem. If it wasn't an open platform, and was all built by only one company, it wouldn't have been announced until just before it was shipped.

I'm sure some people are frustrated by it, but following "publish early and often", and all that goes with it, is how open source works.

Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

#54

Post by padmanabhan01 »

jrockway wrote: post #44
kloncks wrote: post #23

The best comment I've heard on this news came from John Gruber: "Here’s the list of Android phones you can buy today other than the Nexus One which support Android version 2.2: {}."

I can make meaningless statements too! "Here's the list of iPhone apps I can install on my iPhone without Apple's permission: {}" Incidentally, 2.2 (via the CM6 test) runs just fine on my Sapphire. The joy of Free Software is that I can fix my own device that is no longer the flavor of the month. T-Mobile will never give that device an Android > 2.0. But the community can, and it works much better than the stock imag…

So the options are either bloatware or git?

How about something that just works?

Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

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Post by rbanffy »

kloncks wrote: post #23

The best comment I've heard on this news came from John Gruber: "Here’s the list of Android phones you can buy today other than the Nexus One which support Android version 2.2: {}."

As a good pythonista, I know this is not a list, but a set.

And it makes sense - why would one need the same phone to appear more than once?

Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

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Post by [deleted] »

padmanabhan01 wrote: post #54
jrockway wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can make meaningless statements too! "Here's the list of iPhone apps I can install on my iPhone without Apple's permission: {}" Incidentally, 2.2 (via the CM6 test) runs just fine on my Sapphire. The joy of Free Software is that I can fix my own device that is no longer the flavor of the month. T-Mobile will never give that device an Android > 2.0. But the community can, and it works much better than the stock imag…

So the options are either bloatware or git? How about something that just works?

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Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

#57

Post by unshift »

rbanffy wrote: post #55
kloncks wrote: post #23

The best comment I've heard on this news came from John Gruber: "Here’s the list of Android phones you can buy today other than the Nexus One which support Android version 2.2: {}."

As a good pythonista, I know this is not a list, but a set. And it makes sense - why would one need the same phone to appear more than once?

actually in python you make sets from lists, as in set([1, 2, 3, 4]). {} is for dicts.

Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

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Post by ericd »

jrockway wrote: post #44
kloncks wrote: post #23

The best comment I've heard on this news came from John Gruber: "Here’s the list of Android phones you can buy today other than the Nexus One which support Android version 2.2: {}."

I can make meaningless statements too! "Here's the list of iPhone apps I can install on my iPhone without Apple's permission: {}" Incidentally, 2.2 (via the CM6 test) runs just fine on my Sapphire. The joy of Free Software is that I can fix my own device that is no longer the flavor of the month. T-Mobile will never give that device an Android > 2.0. But the community can, and it works much better than the stock imag…

From the perspective of one of my parents, neither of whom have probably ever heard of Git, it's not supported by any phone model. This is a serious problem with the ecosystem, and saying that that's how Free Software works isn't going to make it not a problem.

Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

#59

Post by Tichy »

tptacek wrote: post #16
Tichy wrote: post #9

You can still buy the N1, just not from Google. I think they gave up too soon.

I don't think they "gave up" so much as "saw they were never going to make a lot of money on it" and "were antagonizing the channel for the vast majority of all Android sales". G doesn't want to sell phones; they just want to control the OS that runs on them.

More specifically, they want to get the data from mobile phone users and they want mobile phone users to use Google for search.

Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

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Post by rbanffy »

unshift wrote: post #57
rbanffy wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a good pythonista, I know this is not a list, but a set. And it makes sense - why would one need the same phone to appear more than once?

actually in python you make sets from lists, as in set([1, 2, 3, 4]). {} is for dicts.

I am thinking Python 2.7/3.1 ;-)

http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7.html#python-3-1-feat...

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