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Re: Apple Watch Series 3

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Post by gamblor956 »

melling wrote: post #50
taloft wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also have a Garmin 735xt for the same reasons. Another big issue is battery life. Garmin can go for a solid week or more between charges, while Apple Watch is about a day.

Can someone describe the other benefits of a Garmin over an Apple Watch for jogging? I use my Watch for light jogging, monitoring heart rate, pace, and distance. Recently, I’ve been trying to increase days, and will up my mileage in a couple months, after I lose a little more weight.

Garmin has best-in-class GPS and wrist-based heart-rate monitors.

The Apple watch...it has a GPS and heart-rate monitor. They're fine if you just want a general idea of how fast you're going (to an accuracy of +/- 30 sec/mile pace) or heart rate (to an accuracy of +/- 10 hbpm).

If you are tracking trends, this inaccuracy is fine since it's the trend that matters. But if the actual numbers matter, go with the Garmin (or Polar, or Suunto) and leave the iWatch at home.

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

eridius wrote: post #71
jhugg wrote: post #14

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It’s because in many parts of the world, people won’t buy expensive things unless there is some way for people to know you spent a lot of money and have the newest thing. I hate the red dot too. Already ordered my WatchDots.

Exactly this. China is a great example. Many many people will buy the LTE model strictly for the red dot, with no intention of actually using LTE, because it's a status symbol. I'm really surprised Gruber doesn't get that. There was a post I saw recently, that I thought Gruber linked to but I can't find it anymore, about how Apple's strategy of taking old phones and selling them as the lower tier models is great beca…

Red is a lucky colour in China.

I hope that's not the reason, because it a huge wart on the side of a device that already isn't as thin and elegant as it might be.

But who knows?

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Post by photojosh »

alttab wrote: post #85
pbarnes_1 wrote: post #83

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Uhm, that's how the AW, AW S1 and AW S2 run so that's perfectly fine. He's not comparing it to a Pebble.

Good thing too. Because Pebble owners know what time it is when they wake up in the middle of the night. Apple customers have to pick up their phone or ask alexa, I mean homepod.

Mine goes on a dock and it goes into 'nightstand' mode. Screen is off, but all I have to do is tap my bedside table and the time comes on. YMMV, but I like it so much better than having the time always on, because I like a totally dark room.

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Post by photojosh »

gamblor956 wrote: post #119
sisk wrote: post #93

Perhaps I'm in the minority but I've decided to purchase this precisely to stay connected while running. To be fair, it's not the during that I'm worried about, it's the after . I've never been able to get used to running with a phone (or really anything other than a watch, for that matter) so I'm always disconnected while exercising. I often, however, participate in races with a handful of other people and have lear…

A number of my friends purchased the AW2 for running, and none of them use it anymore. It simply doesn't have the battery life for long runs (>3 hours) if you're actually using the GPS. This rules it out for marathons, as it dies before you finish (even for BQ-qualifying times. And note, this was the non-LTE version of the watch; if the LTE version has worse battery life, you're not going to be organizing anything po…

What do they use for actually recording the GPS tracks? As we can probably agree the built-in workout app sucks for the serious runner.

And I never saw any good assessments of the GPS quality of the watch even though I've looked, do you know of any online?

Now that watchOS 4 can connect directly to Bluetooth sensors, I'd be very interested in a GPS app that derived pace and distance from a BT footpod, much like you can do with a Garmin to get better accuracy.

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Post by photojosh »

rconti wrote: post #114
js2 wrote: post #38

> But it lets you leave your phone at home when you go for a run, or in your locker while you’re at the gym, or in your hotel while you go to the beach, and not worry in the least that you’re out of touch. I'm a big fan of Apple. I own their stock, and I can count at least 10 Apple devices in my house at this moment. But the Apple Watch is not for me. I tried. When I go for a run, I want to be out of touch. The only…

Don't you have two wrists? Why not wear both? That's what I did when transitioning from Suunto for running to Apple Watch. I'm not a serious runner or athlete really, so Strava suffices for my daily bike commute and occasional runs, but I agree the touch interface is bordering on unusable at times, and autopause is not good enough to trust. (and, overall, optical HR sensors don't handle intervals (recovery) well. My…

I do this. Looks like I'm an idiot to onlookers, but I don't care. :)

Re: Apple Watch Series 3

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Post by photojosh »

matrixtransform wrote: post #73
eridius wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly this. China is a great example. Many many people will buy the LTE model strictly for the red dot, with no intention of actually using LTE, because it's a status symbol. I'm really surprised Gruber doesn't get that. There was a post I saw recently, that I thought Gruber linked to but I can't find it anymore, about how Apple's strategy of taking old phones and selling them as the lower tier models is great beca…

It's the same reason why earpods only come in white. It makes them stand out. White iPod headphones were a walking advertisement/status symbol for years.

I will buy AirPods the moment they come in black... so I'm guessing I probably never will. :)

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Post by ben_jones »

joselreyes wrote: post #95
5_minutes wrote: post #82

Though always well written, Daring Fireball’s articles are always sprinkled with some fanboyism, I do miss a real critical and objective voice in his writing. Because somehow the voice pretends it is. But actually the glass is always a bit more than half full, no matter what.

Yes, but he is consistent. So you can always read his reviews and peg it down a notch if you regularly slightly disagree with him. I don't mind biases in reviewers if they're consistent in their takes.

I'd argue that writing is influential and can strengthens cognitive biases. If someone is poor and teetering on the edge of buying a luxury Apple watch they're going to be looking for that one shining article that goads them into doing it. When society accepts such influencers as role models and people to listen to / follow then we have a problem.

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Post by brentis »

This guy must get a monthly paycheck from Apple. He always comes out swooning over new Apple hardware despite everyone else slamming it. It’s a tired routine.

This is coming from someone with more Apple devices than I care to mention and even last week bought a new iMac. My personal phone however, is a Pixel.

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