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Google pulls plug on Nexus One

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Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

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Personally I don't think that Google tried very hard. I hardly ever watch TV, but I've seen TV commercials for Droid. I didn't see any for Nexus One. I upgraded from a dumb phone recently and wanted to buy a Nexus One, but T-Mobile lady told me Google required a much more expensive plan, that the buy-one-get-one free sale wasn't applicable, and that there were all other kinds of undesirable things about it. It also c…

Tmobile requires a more expensive plan to recover the cost of allowing you to buy the phone subsidized. If you buy it unlocked over two years (and you're not a family plan) you save around $600 compared to buying it on contract.

Um, this number sounds high. My recollection is that there is a $20/month difference in price so you are effectively paying an extra $480 towards a phone over two years. If the difference in up-front cost for the device is less than this, buying off-contract is cheaper.

Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

#44
post #23

The best comment I've heard on this news came from John Gruber: "Here’s the list of Android phones you can buy today other than the Nexus One which support Android version 2.2: {}."

I can make meaningless statements too! "Here's the list of iPhone apps I can install on my iPhone without Apple's permission: {}"

Incidentally, 2.2 (via the CM6 test) runs just fine on my Sapphire. The joy of Free Software is that I can fix my own device that is no longer the flavor of the month. T-Mobile will never give that device an Android > 2.0. But the community can, and it works much better than the stock image.

(Android 2.2 sort of works on my EVO 4G. The 4G doesn't work, but then again, since the EVO came out, Sprint's 4G hasn't worked in Chicago anyway. So I guess 2.2 works fine on the EVO, actually.)

Anyway, it all comes down to how you define supported. If you mean, "in the form of a bloatware ROM filled with ads for your carrier", you're right, Android 2.2 is not supported by anything. If you mean, "I can check it out from git, compile it, and load it onto my phone", well, pretty much everything supports 2.2 now. Pretty awesome, if you ask me.

Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

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post #10

I blame Google for letting people build the Nexus One up so much (remember the crazy pre-launch rumors about how it was going to change the world?) It's not that Americans are stupid and the rest of the world is smart. The problem is that you typically pay the same monthly service fee whether you take a subsidized phone or not. To go buy your own phone at full retail price is leaving hundreds of dollars on the table.…

If your carrier charges for tethering, your not leaving $$ on the table.

The other point, not being able to handle it first, I agree with, although it didn't stop me.

Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

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post #23

The best comment I've heard on this news came from John Gruber: "Here’s the list of Android phones you can buy today other than the Nexus One which support Android version 2.2: {}."

The best thing going for the N1 was the expectation that you'd be able to run the latest Android release. With other handsets you're lucky to get one upgrade before they EOL your phone. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect at least two years of upgrades when you're expected to lock into a two-year contract.

Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

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post #23

The best comment I've heard on this news came from John Gruber: "Here’s the list of Android phones you can buy today other than the Nexus One which support Android version 2.2: {}."

I can make meaningless statements too! "Here's the list of iPhone apps I can install on my iPhone without Apple's permission: {}" Incidentally, 2.2 (via the CM6 test) runs just fine on my Sapphire. The joy of Free Software is that I can fix my own device that is no longer the flavor of the month. T-Mobile will never give that device an Android > 2.0. But the community can, and it works much better than the stock imag…

With all due respect, you're going off another tangent.

Froyo, aka Android 2.2, was released on May 20. It's now July 19th, almost two months later. The fact that only one phone will support an OS for more than two months is a problem.

Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The problem is that you typically pay the same monthly service fee whether you take a subsidized phone or not. Yeah, T-mobile is really great about this. I'm saving over a thousand dollars over the life of the phone by getting a data-only plan.

I'm curious: do you have a data-only plan so you can use VoIP to make phone calls? I have been trying to find a device that would make it easy to make VoIP calls most of the time, since I am nearly always around free (or already-paid for) wireless broadband, but fall back on a prepaid SIM card when I only have cell network coverage. Some of the Android devices look promising for this, especially the Nexus One, but I…

I use VoIP for almost all calls on my N1, but any Android phone will allow you to do it pretty conveniently. For instance, I have two friends who are doing the same with their G1 and Moto Droid respectively. We use the sipdroid application with gizmo5.

Re: Google pulls plug on Nexus One

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post #15

"Google’s plan to cut out the middle-man from the sales plan (that is, the mobile operators) sucks (unless you’re talking about Apple)." Maybe it's fair to say that the problems involved in selling direct to the consumer are relatively insurmountable, unless your company has expertise in that domain. I think Google must have underestimated the task.

I think Google must have underestimated the task. Or overestimated their own interest in playing this game.

If they're going to compete with Apple though, who's now firmly waltzing into Google's territory (see iAd and all the new cloud services)...

...don't they have to be interested in playing this game?

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