A phrase with the words sledgehammer and nut comes to mind.
Obviously somebody was a naughty boy, but what about the other users of the server?
70,000 Blogs Shut Down by U.S. Law Enforcement
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#52That is a bit Kafkaesque. Everyone has the right to know why their right is being denied or what they are being charged with. If it was a privet firm then fine, but the government can't just go around closing websites without saying if not in detail then in general what the charges are. How, if the website owner is wronged, is he able to challenge the decision if he does not even know what the allegations are against…
What you say was more or less true in 2000. Things have changed a bit since then. The fact that many recent laws and programs obviously defy the first ten amendments to the US Constitution have gone "unnoticed" by the SCOTUS, and both major brands (D & R) seem content with how things have developed the last decade.
"We the rabble" are likely in for a 10 year slog to fix things, if we are lucky: paper ballots; some kind of coalition or runoff voting rule changes to take down the "two" party system; reestablishment of the rule of law.
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#53A blogging service works on a per-account basis, for them to shut down the whole server instead of just taking down the offending account(s) seems to be pretty excessive, no matter what those accounts have 'done'. There is some chance they found themselves the unwitting participant in a child pornography distribution network, and that they don't know which accounts are 'the ones', and they've taken everything off-lin…
Why keep it a secret if it's just kiddie porn?
Brand damage.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems the origigonal post was deleted I guess... Now it seems I'm like I'm talking to myself. 1) Among all his rhetoric about not continuing the policy he slips in "there may be a number of people who cannot be prosecuted for past crimes, in some cases because evidence may be tainted, but who nonetheless pose a threat to the security of the United States...must be prevented from attacking us again " His policy sta…
You should have listed more of that quote. Directly above that President Obama said: Now, finally, there remains the question of detainees at Guantanamo who cannot be prosecuted yet who pose a clear danger to the American people. And I have to be honest here -- this is the toughest single issue that we will face. We're going to exhaust every avenue that we have to prosecute those at Guantanamo who pose a danger to ou…
> Directly above that President Obama said:
It doesn't matter what he says in a speech. What matters is what he says via executive orders, policy, and executive branch action.
> President Obama is a Constitutional scholar, and acknowledges our bindings to it.
Oh really? Feel free to cite any of his scholarly writings.
> Compare that with Bush who was rumored to say it's "just a piece of paper".
By someone who had an axe to grind. What has that person said about Obama's continuation and expansion of the same policies? (To be fair, some folks who criticized Bush for doing certain things have criticized Obama for continuing and expanding, but they're a marginalized minority. The "good people" have largely fallen into line.)
Of course, if you want to play "was rumored to say", there are some doozies attributed to Obama.
Double-standard much?
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#55More details from BurstNet's CTO: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20010923-261.html
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
If possible, it's generally better to link to someplace other than the You Must Be A Registered Member Times. A signup form is not very informative.
Interesting I'm not a member and get full access. Are you outside the US?
Nope, I'm in California. IIRC, the first N views are free, then they throw up a registration form for the next week or so.
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#57That is a bit Kafkaesque. Everyone has the right to know why their right is being denied or what they are being charged with. If it was a privet firm then fine, but the government can't just go around closing websites without saying if not in detail then in general what the charges are. How, if the website owner is wronged, is he able to challenge the decision if he does not even know what the allegations are against…
What you say was more or less true in 2000. Things have changed a bit since then. The fact that many recent laws and programs obviously defy the first ten amendments to the US Constitution have gone "unnoticed" by the SCOTUS, and both major brands (D & R) seem content with how things have developed the last decade. "We the rabble" are likely in for a 10 year slog to fix things, if we are lucky: paper ballots; some ki…
I am sorry. I can not quite agree with that. I do not know about the united states, but here in the united kingdom we have a very independent judiciary which has ruled against the government time and time again.
I do agree in a way, just before Tony Blair left, which I think was 2008 or 2007 things seemed to be going in a very dark direction, but frankly, it is the peoples fault.
We are so lucky as to be able to change government without bloodshed and in the UK for what I know we are so lucky as to not go down without a very real power struggle between the executive and the judiciary.
Take them to court I say. That is what they are for.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
You should have listed more of that quote. Directly above that President Obama said: Now, finally, there remains the question of detainees at Guantanamo who cannot be prosecuted yet who pose a clear danger to the American people. And I have to be honest here -- this is the toughest single issue that we will face. We're going to exhaust every avenue that we have to prosecute those at Guantanamo who pose a danger to ou…
> Directly above that President Obama said: It doesn't matter what he says in a speech. What matters is what he says via executive orders, policy, and executive branch action. > President Obama is a Constitutional scholar, and acknowledges our bindings to it. Oh really? Feel free to cite any of his scholarly writings. > Compare that with Bush who was rumored to say it's "just a piece of paper". By someone who had an…
It doesn't matter what he says in a speech.
I disagree. Words have both immediate and historical significance and impact, whether by a dictator like Hitler or a president like John F. Kennedy.
What matters is what he says via executive orders, policy, and executive branch action.
I agree.
Oh really? Feel free to cite any of his scholarly writings.
"Mar 28, 2008 ... Barack Obama is correct in saying he is a constitutional law professor." source: FactCheck.org (http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_barack_obama_reall...)
Of course, if you want to play "was rumored to say", there are some doozies attributed to Obama.
I will retract the rumor text. I almost didn't put it in, but I wanted to give some context for G. W. Bush's apparent disregard for Constitutional law. But I don't need to. Just watch the 6 minute YouTube video with a noted Constitutional law professor I included. Here it is again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmc60JmaLbE
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Directly above that President Obama said: It doesn't matter what he says in a speech. What matters is what he says via executive orders, policy, and executive branch action. > President Obama is a Constitutional scholar, and acknowledges our bindings to it. Oh really? Feel free to cite any of his scholarly writings. > Compare that with Bush who was rumored to say it's "just a piece of paper". By someone who had an…
It doesn't matter what he says in a speech. I disagree. Words have both immediate and historical significance and impact, whether by a dictator like Hitler or a president like John F. Kennedy. What matters is what he says via executive orders, policy, and executive branch action. I agree. Oh really? Feel free to cite any of his scholarly writings. "Mar 28, 2008 ... Barack Obama is correct in saying he is a constituti…
>> Oh really? Feel free to cite any of his scholarly writings.
> "Mar 28, 2008 ... Barack Obama is correct in saying he is a constitutional law professor." source: FactCheck.org (http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_barack_obama_reall...)
The claim was that he was a constitutional law scholar, not that he was a professor. While there are overlaps between the two groups, neither one is a subset of the other.
I'll ask again - if Obama is a constitutional law scholar, where is his scholarly output?
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Directly above that President Obama said: It doesn't matter what he says in a speech. What matters is what he says via executive orders, policy, and executive branch action. > President Obama is a Constitutional scholar, and acknowledges our bindings to it. Oh really? Feel free to cite any of his scholarly writings. > Compare that with Bush who was rumored to say it's "just a piece of paper". By someone who had an…
It doesn't matter what he says in a speech. I disagree. Words have both immediate and historical significance and impact, whether by a dictator like Hitler or a president like John F. Kennedy. What matters is what he says via executive orders, policy, and executive branch action. I agree. Oh really? Feel free to cite any of his scholarly writings. "Mar 28, 2008 ... Barack Obama is correct in saying he is a constituti…
>> It doesn't matter what he says in a speech.
> I disagree. Words have both immediate and historical significance and impact, whether by a dictator like Hitler or a president like John F. Kennedy.
Both Kennedy and Hitler followed up on their words. Their words were significant because of their actions.
With Obama, at least on these issues, the words and actions are very different.