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Re: Vivaldi 1.12 released

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Post by Vinnl »

cknight wrote: post #17
j_s wrote: post #8

Is anyone using a non-big-3 (Chrome/Firefox/Safari) browser enough to call it their default? I haven't tried Vivaldi yet but see this non-update hitting the front page as a heads-up that it might be worth checking out; how does this company pay the bills? I'm interested in hearing about both the options available on different operating systems and/or mobile devices and the primary benefit each provides. On Android, F…

Opera (Windows, Android) because I find its UI to be to my personal taste. I am looking to switch (back, a decade later) to Firefox when 57 rolls out, but unless I can get a viable alternative to Opera's brilliant Speed Dial, I might not be able to break the inertia.

Interesting, what makes their speed dial brilliant?

Re: Vivaldi 1.12 released

#32

Post by mrmondo »

zizek23 wrote: post #20
mrmondo wrote: post #14

Certainly lots of features I'd enjoy but I couldn't find the source and builds logs so I was a bit dubious - after doing some research it appears to be closed-source and proprietary software. While I'm not saying it's bad because it's closed source, a web browser has access to a _lot_ of personal (meta)data and is certainly not something I'm about to trust to some black-box software that's not under review by the man…

Not saying your point is invalid but in the same context Google has access to all your stuff, including correlations to your mobile and location information and is not afraid to share it, as do others ie ISPs, possibly Microsoft. So for browsers controlling meta data on user end has limited value without rules and laws around user data.

I don’t use Google Chrome - mostly for that very reason.

Re: Vivaldi 1.12 released

#33

Post by tortasaur »

j_s wrote: post #24
zizek23 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not saying your point is invalid but in the same context Google has access to all your stuff, including correlations to your mobile and location information and is not afraid to share it, as do others ie ISPs, possibly Microsoft. So for browsers controlling meta data on user end has limited value without rules and laws around user data.

Also: the most invasive parts of the analytics / tracking / privacy-invading aspects of Google Chrome are closed source.

You can use Chromium.

Re: Vivaldi 1.12 released

#34

Post by mrmondo »

j_s wrote: post #24
zizek23 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not saying your point is invalid but in the same context Google has access to all your stuff, including correlations to your mobile and location information and is not afraid to share it, as do others ie ISPs, possibly Microsoft. So for browsers controlling meta data on user end has limited value without rules and laws around user data.

Also: the most invasive parts of the analytics / tracking / privacy-invading aspects of Google Chrome are closed source.

Indeed, it’s quite concerning how little this is discussed or talked about in a lens that’s interesting to the average person.

Re: Vivaldi 1.12 released

#35

Post by gjjrfcbugxbhf »

DiThi wrote: post #30
j_s wrote: post #8

Is anyone using a non-big-3 (Chrome/Firefox/Safari) browser enough to call it their default? I haven't tried Vivaldi yet but see this non-update hitting the front page as a heads-up that it might be worth checking out; how does this company pay the bills? I'm interested in hearing about both the options available on different operating systems and/or mobile devices and the primary benefit each provides. On Android, F…

I've used Konqueror (Chrome's grandfather) for about 6-7 years. After Firefox 3 was released I switched to FF and even though I've used Chrome for a year or two at some point, I won't replace Firefox again unless I have an equivalent Awesome bar (Chrome doesn't cut it) and Tree Style Tabs.

We lose tree style tabs by the end of the year

Re: Vivaldi 1.12 released

#38

Post by aembleton »

gjjrfcbugxbhf wrote: post #35
DiThi wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've used Konqueror (Chrome's grandfather) for about 6-7 years. After Firefox 3 was released I switched to FF and even though I've used Chrome for a year or two at some point, I won't replace Firefox again unless I have an equivalent Awesome bar (Chrome doesn't cut it) and Tree Style Tabs.

We lose tree style tabs by the end of the year

We have Tree Tabs [1] for Firefox 57+

1. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-tabs/?sr...

Re: Vivaldi 1.12 released

#39

Post by cknight »

Vinnl wrote: post #31
cknight wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Opera (Windows, Android) because I find its UI to be to my personal taste. I am looking to switch (back, a decade later) to Firefox when 57 rolls out, but unless I can get a viable alternative to Opera's brilliant Speed Dial, I might not be able to break the inertia.

Interesting, what makes their speed dial brilliant?

It's polished, it's sufficiently customisable for my likes, it features folders, it's completely integrated in to the bookmarks system, accessible from sync'd devices, and allows for simple drag-and-drop rearrangements. All without needing an extension of any kind.

Firefox's "top sites with pinning" does only some of this, and is clunky. Every Fx Speed Dial extension I have tried is similarly lacking in some way or another.

Re: Vivaldi 1.12 released

#40

Post by j_s »

DiThi wrote: post #30
j_s wrote: post #8

Is anyone using a non-big-3 (Chrome/Firefox/Safari) browser enough to call it their default? I haven't tried Vivaldi yet but see this non-update hitting the front page as a heads-up that it might be worth checking out; how does this company pay the bills? I'm interested in hearing about both the options available on different operating systems and/or mobile devices and the primary benefit each provides. On Android, F…

I've used Konqueror (Chrome's grandfather) for about 6-7 years. After Firefox 3 was released I switched to FF and even though I've used Chrome for a year or two at some point, I won't replace Firefox again unless I have an equivalent Awesome bar (Chrome doesn't cut it) and Tree Style Tabs.

This discussion yesterday covered a lot of the tree style tab options:

"Show HN: Doogie – A Chromium-Based Browser with Tree-Style Pages " | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15277351

Does anyone have experience with the freemium Chrome extension Tabs Outliner mentioned there?

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabs-outliner/eggk...

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