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Twitter Suspends 300k Accounts Tied to Terrorism in 2017

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Re: Twitter Suspends 300k Accounts Tied to Terrorism in 2017

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Post by grey-area »

alexanderstears wrote: post #86
grandalf wrote: post #61

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The word "terrorism" is a PR word intended to marginalize whatever group it is applied to. As a tactic, terrorism describes the infliction of civilian casualties meant to create a disproportionate climate of fear. By this definition, drones used in warfare are a form of terrorism. In today's world we are not fighting wars in the traditional sense of defending ourselves against aggression. Since there is no obvious th…

terrorism describes the infliction of civilian casualties meant to create a disproportionate climate of fear. By this definition, drones used in warfare are a form of terrorism. Let's address that point. First, that's a convenient definition that erases the distinction between State and non-State violence which is critical to many people's formulations of what is and isn't permissible. E.g I wouldn't tolerate my neig…

Terrorists seek to maximize damage

That's not usually true. Terrorists often don't go for max deaths but for a specific symbolic target (e.g. Pentagon, wtc etc). What they want is to provoke a response, ideally heavy-handed repression - the aim is to polarise the society targeted, to instill fear and panic, and reveal the implicit violence of government as explicit action.

Drone strikes and the policy of global assassination does not keep you safe, it just kills a lot of people. Re support for democracy, I'm not sure why you believe that given support for Pinochet, sisi, Mubarak, hussein, Saud etc

Re: Twitter Suspends 300k Accounts Tied to Terrorism in 2017

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Post by alexanderstears »

neuronexmachina wrote: post #99
katastic wrote: post #89

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It's conflation to compare coontown with the_donald. Go there right now. You won't find "kill the jews" posts. You won't find "kill the gays/black people" posts. You'll find a ton of supportive people with a particular worldview--and there's nothing wrong with that. If you assume the people you disagree with are "insane" or disregard them as "full of hate" then you'll never understand why they think the way they do a…

I was curious and peeked over to see what's currently popular over at the_donald. Some of the top-voted recent links: * "UN Globalists are on suicide watch after President Trump's speech" * "One of the best quotes of the speech. Socialist cucks BTFO!" * "This tweet from David Brock's cucks is less than 2 weeks old and has already aged terribly." * "Can you imagine a world without Islam?" * "HE TRULY IS A GOD AMONG ME…

The_donald is dramatic - maybe to the point of low-grade hysteria. There was an excellent quip from the election:

SALENA ZITO wrote (about Trump)

the press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.

You can map the same thing onto his subreddit. If we take them seriously but not literally, they're not wrong.

People with a globalist view really disliked Trump's speech.

There's a matter of opinion about a line in the same speech that his supporters apparently liked.

I'm not going to weigh in on David Brock.

Some God Emperor silliness. FWIW, the God Emperor of 40k led humanity very well up until the point of the Horus Heresy and every God Emperor depiction of Trump is one prior to the Emperor's wounding so it's well intentioned (at least).

And Islamic terror is the most deadly religious ideology in the world right now. Perhaps it's not the wisest thing to be concerned about but it's avowed enemy of America , democracy, and limited government so it's an almost perfect outgroup for self-styled American patriots.

Re: Twitter Suspends 300k Accounts Tied to Terrorism in 2017

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Post by B1FF_PSUVM »

gertef wrote: post #120
astura wrote: post #117

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His communication was two way, not just one way. It was just really slow and labor intensive. I typed my last comment going from memory. I looked it up and my memory served me well, his bunker didn't have Internet. Looks like his USB drives weren't encrypted though, rookie mistake. http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/how-bin-laden-emailed-without-b...

https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html """ I am careful in how I use the Internet. I generally do not connect to web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with. I usually fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program (see git://git.gnu.org/womb/hacks.git) that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a we…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradecraft

Fortunately, nowadays half the planet's population are Stasi volunteers.

Re: Twitter Suspends 300k Accounts Tied to Terrorism in 2017

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Post by Semiapies »

maxerickson wrote: post #105
Semiapies wrote: post #57

"roughly 95 percent were identified by the company’s spam-fighting automation tools" I wonder how high the false positive rate is.

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Reply more usefully.

There's been precious little real information ventured on the topic since I commented, and there was none before I did.

Re: Twitter Suspends 300k Accounts Tied to Terrorism in 2017

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Post by [deleted] »

supergreg wrote: post #102
module0000 wrote: post #91

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It's a great way to plant false plans. You don't have to carry them out unless the threat was never mitigated(if it wasn't taken seriously, then you can carry it out for 2x damage: part being the attack itself, the second part being that "they knew and did nothing!").

How would you know if they did know and chose not to do anything to avoid showing they did know?

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Re: Twitter Suspends 300k Accounts Tied to Terrorism in 2017

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Post by KGIII »

softawre wrote: post #50
aphextron wrote: post #36

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Agreed, and this should be the retort to any curtailing of free speech in the name of safety. Its the same argument as allowing “the_donald” to exist on Reddit. You will not stop an ideology by denying them a platform. Better to debate them in an open forum, even if they are evil. The only way to counter bad ideas is with good ones.

There was a recent /r/science article that suggested the banning of coontown and fatpeoplehate resulted in less hate on the platform as a whole. Would you argue this hate moved to other avenues of the web? I'd bet some of it did, but some people just stopped being so hateful on the internet once their cesspool went away. https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/6zg6w6/reddits_ban...

You should visit voat.co and see where they went.

It's pretty much a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Re: Twitter Suspends 300k Accounts Tied to Terrorism in 2017

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Post by astura »

agumonkey wrote: post #140
astura wrote: post #94

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Before he was killed Bin Laden communicated with his inner circle only by USB drives transported by sneakernet - his bunker lacked Internet connection but his communications were electronic. I think some of his communication was re-transmitted by his couriers over the Internet though but not through locations that were physically near where he was hiding.

Now I'm curious, I wonder how feasible it would be to use acoustic sniffing to hear people like him talking or typing. Some guys infered letters from the sound of keystrokes.

Proof of concept has already been achieved: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/09/snooping_on_t...

Re: Twitter Suspends 300k Accounts Tied to Terrorism in 2017

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Post by KGIII »

rmrm wrote: post #126
gertef wrote: post #121

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The concept Free Speech transcends the specifics of the US Constitution's First Amendment. "Complies with US First Amendment" != "Free Speech"

I don't think Free Speech has ever meant being required to publish others speech. Freedom of the press was meant to ensure you can say what you wish via pamphlets or starting your own newspaper, wherein you own the method of speech. That is why it was fundamental to Free Speech. One has never been able to compel a publisher to publish them. You may have a different concept, but to my way way of thinking that has alwa…

What's your opinion on cake decorations?

Re: Twitter Suspends 300k Accounts Tied to Terrorism in 2017

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Post by viraptor »

katastic wrote: post #131
neuronexmachina wrote: post #99

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I was curious and peeked over to see what's currently popular over at the_donald. Some of the top-voted recent links: * "UN Globalists are on suicide watch after President Trump's speech" * "One of the best quotes of the speech. Socialist cucks BTFO!" * "This tweet from David Brock's cucks is less than 2 weeks old and has already aged terribly." * "Can you imagine a world without Islam?" * "HE TRULY IS A GOD AMONG ME…

Bill Maher, once heralded as an extreme left liberal (who supported gay marriage and marijuana legalization in the early 90's when nobody thought either would ever happen), consistently talks about the "threat of Islam to democracy". Is he a neocon now? And should we remove his speech to "reduce hate" the same way you're suggesting the_donald be removed?

You pivoted away from the topic. Bill Maher case may be interesting to discuss, but doesn't change whether the_donald calls for hate. Which actually looking at the subreddit shows it does.
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