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The worst visualization I've ever seen (CNBC on the oil spill)

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Re: The worst visualization I've ever seen (CNBC on the oil spill)

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> However, Phelps likely wouldn't be able to swim as quickly through thick crude oil as he could through clear, fresh water.

Actually this is not true: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1418001

And: "clear, fresh water". As if "non-fresh" water would make any difference.

Re: The worst visualization I've ever seen (CNBC on the oil spill)

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post #15

I think the progression is interesting. It starts by visualising what 1 gallon equals using something that people recognise in everyday life ... then shows a lot of 'wow, it really is vast' slides, then moves to 'well, it's pretty small compared to the size of the gulf / how much oil we have in reserve'. It's not a good example of info-graphics - it's a slide-show with illustrations.

There is a place for the "compare to everyday measurements" info-graphics. But as others have pointed out, it doesn't take a genius to understand that one gallon of oil has the same volume as one gallon of milk and 184 millions of anything is still pretty hard to comprehend.

And what are they trying to show with the boats? These boats don't even represent known quantities (eg. size of a football stadium, milk container etc.), they only show that some catastrophes were worse, some were less bad.

The stadium misses the point, just as the oil reserve by comparison. A comparison of the affected surface area in the first case and a comparison of the production of Saudi Arabia during the same time-frame would be much more useful.

Now, the bumper-to-bumper of trucks and the SF-bay graphics are not bad.

Re: The worst visualization I've ever seen (CNBC on the oil spill)

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post #6

I think the yacht one was worse. But the beer can in the stadium I'm afraid takes the cake. Completely absurd.

The yacht was confusing. Am I looking at the height of the boat? The height of its deck? Its area as plotted? And where do I get one of these giant yachts that dwarfs an oil tanker?

Made worse by the fact that the pictured oil tanker represents the 11 million gallons spilled by the Exxon Valdez. (Wait, now I come to look at it again, it's a rowboat, not a tiny oil tanker). Anyway, the 11 million gallons the Valdez spilled was a small portion of its actual capacity of 46 million gallons.

Re: The worst visualization I've ever seen (CNBC on the oil spill)

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post #17

Oh, it's not that bad. Some of them are reasonable, some of them not so much. The fact that it was enough to coat San Francisco Bay to a depth of 1/64th of an inch sorta put it into perspective for me. (This did not, I admit, need to be illustrated with a line-art drawing of the Golden Gate Bridge).

How so? If I get to pick the thickness that I coat it with I can compare it to anything, from a small pool to the entire worlds oceans. So telling you San Francisco Bay tells you nothing at all.

And they are wrong anyway. 184,000,000 gallons / (1/64 inch) = 677.6 mi^2, while the San Francisco Bay is 1600 mi^2

And just for fun: This could cover all the oceans of the world to a depth of .00000008045 inches. (Which is about 39 atoms thick.)

Re: The worst visualization I've ever seen (CNBC on the oil spill)

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post #2

This shows you exactly what not to do with your info-viz. They show about 100 milk jugs of gray gradient and say, imagine if there were 184 million of them? Whoa Whoa Whoa. HOLD THE BOAT. You (CNBC) are telling me that the oil spill is 184 million gallons is also equivalent to 184 MILLION ONE-GALLON MILK JUGS?!?!? That is just crazy - consider my mind BLOWN! Perhaps you could show a pyramid of 184 million gallon jugs…

Here, let me help you out since a "gallon milk jug" is apparently a little too big of a concept for your mind to hold. Picture this: a Quart container of milk, and now just imagine 736 million of them. Doesn't that make it easier to relate to on an intuitive level? I thought so. Courtesy of the CNBC Visualization Graphics Help Desk.

Re: The worst visualization I've ever seen (CNBC on the oil spill)

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post #21

> However, Phelps likely wouldn't be able to swim as quickly through thick crude oil as he could through clear, fresh water. Actually this is not true: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1418001 And: "clear, fresh water". As if "non-fresh" water would make any difference.

I would expect Michael Phelps to perform differently compared to the sixteen volunteers in that experiment. Michael Phelps has spent his entire life optimising his stroke for maximum speed in water. Give him a different liquid and he'll be sub-optimal.

Re: The worst visualization I've ever seen (CNBC on the oil spill)

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post #10
post #6

I think the yacht one was worse. But the beer can in the stadium I'm afraid takes the cake. Completely absurd.

I agree, especially when I read this: "Cowboys stadium has an internal volume of approximately 104 cubic feet" Somebody left out a "million" somewhere.

So close to the action!

Re: The worst visualization I've ever seen (CNBC on the oil spill)

#30

The graphic is kind of bad, but their idea is quite sound. If you read the caption, it includes: > Set side by side, the 184 million oil-filled jugs would cover an area of approximately 1.36 square miles. This amount of 1-gallon containers would be enough for every resident of the 12 most populous US states (2/3 the population of the country) to carry one in their hand simultaneously. To me, that's powerful imagery.…

Is it powerful imagery? To me it just comes across as "incomprehensibly large".

On the other hand, the San Francisco Bay one comes across as "Oh, well that's not so bad then".

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