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Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by masklinn »

scarface74 wrote: post #146
masklinn wrote: post #144

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> my PPC Mac software Rosetta was bundled with OSX for 4 years. That's for PPC mac software running on hardware which literally could not run it natively. > my 68K Mac software The Mac 68k emulator was only deprecated with the Intel transition, 68K mac software remained supported for about a decade . > How far back should Apple go supporting older platforms? Supporting software which runs natively on the hardware doe…

32 bit apps don't run natively on the new ARM chips. Heck many old apps don't run at all on iOS 10. Apple was able to reduce the size of iOS by not having 32 bit support libraries in memory. Since iOS doesn't have paging, that saved memory benefits 64 bit apps.

> 32 bit apps don't run natively on the new ARM chips.

Which is not my issue, have you considered reading my comments? Here, let me make it easy for you:

> the problem is that you can't play phone games from 2009 on your 2013~2016 iPhone which had been able to run them right until you updated iOS.

> Apple was able to reduce the size of iOS by not having 32 bit support libraries in memory.

Is that why capacity available went down 730MB on a 7?

> Since iOS doesn't have paging, that saved memory benefits 64 bit apps.

You could already save that memory by not using 32b software. Don't use the software, the libraries don't get loaded. Furthermore given iOS will kill background applications to reclaim memory, the "saved memory" is just about non-existant.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by greglindahl »

joshuas wrote: post #99
smitherfield wrote: post #92

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The arbitrary removal of 32-bit app support could be thought of as a heuristic to clear away abandonware. Which, for obvious reasons (security), Apple would like to have as little of in its App Store as possible. It also lets them aggressively deprecate and remove legacy APIs going forward.

You know. It just occurred due to me, due to your post, how convenient it must be to have every app using your APIs in one place like the app store.

It's great for asking "who uses this function" and "how do they use it"?

CPAN is used by the perl community to make lists of modules broken by new perl releases. They use this to find how intrusive proposed intentional changes are, as well as to find accidental breakage.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by masklinn »

csomar wrote: post #177
odammit wrote: post #160

I always see a lot of flak around space on iOS upgrades. I seem to always have a ton of space. I never delete iMessages, I take a fair amount of photos (16GB) and I have about 10GB of podcasts and 3GB of Spotify tracks... What generally burns up people's space on their iPhones? Am I just not taking enough photos?!

No. You have the 128Gb version. If I recall correctly when buying the iPhone the options where 32Gb/128Gb. As you did calculate, 32Gb is not enough for the usual person. 128Gb on the other hand, is very plenty.

The base configuration was 16GB until the 7's release in September 2016 (following which the 6S and SE were updated with 32GB base configurations as well).

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by ksk »

013a wrote: post #43
masklinn wrote: post #4

> Practically speaking, do I need to be able to play phone games from 2009 on my 2017 iPhone? Not really. The problem is not that you can't play phone games from 2009 on your 2017 iPhone, tying 32b deprecation to a hardware revision would actually have been nice (regardless of the hardware still being able to run in 32b mode). But that's not what's happening, the problem is that you can't play phone games from 2009 o…

I find it hilarious that every time Apple does anything like this, people complain and Apple still sets record sales. You're fundamentally wrong and Apple knows it. They can rip the headphone jack out. They can deprecate 32 bit apps. They can remove TouchID. They can block installing third party apps. Keep complaining; neither they nor their customers care.

> Keep complaining; neither they nor their customers care.

Apple has reversed several business decisions. Error 53, in app purchase gouging through developer fees, allowing apps instead of web apps (after realizing the iphone was pretty useless without apps), allowing bitcoin apps, etc etc.

>I find it hilarious that every time Apple does anything like this, people complain and Apple still sets record sales.

I hope you are not so naive to think that buying a product implies people like every single feature/change. Also, I don't quite see the hilariousness in a company ignoring valid complaints.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by masklinn »

odammit wrote: post #171
dionidium wrote: post #167

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I seem to be in the same ballpark: - Photos & Camera 16.89 GB - Overcast 2.57 GB - GroupMe 1.12 GB

I have a bunch of random apps w/ 200-300MB but I still have about 79GB available of 128GB

I have 47GB available out of 128.

~30GB of music, 2GB podcasts, 1GB photos & videos, the rest is a large subset of my ios applications.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by astrange »

darthbanane wrote: post #32
tammer wrote: post #18

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Eh it sounds to me that this is a great quick fix for the "I'm slightly too far from the AP to have bandwidth but I'm still maintaining a connection" problem I have almost daily. Will make an obscure security concern you've identified slightly more difficult to deal with. If you don't prefer trade offs like this, Apple likely isn't the best digital provider for you.

You’re right it’s an excellent solution to that issue and sometimes it’s exactly what I want. I’m worried about the security aspect because a stock iphone is what you should get if you care about privacy and security yet the UI actively misleads you on the purpose of the toggle. If they wanted a disconnect button they could have designed a new icon for it. Maybe a toast so that people understand what just happened. I…

WiFi should take hours to drain 30% of your phone battery. Did you check the battery usage in Settings?

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by WizzleKake »

developer2 wrote: post #90
darthbanane wrote: post #22

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It feels like they’re trying to educate me as a user that switching wifi off to save battery is not super smart. It’s true, the difference is minuscule at best (20-30 minutes of battery life) but maybe I want to micromanage to get these 20 minutes. Or because I am concerned about privacy. My take is that if you want to “educate” users on how best to use a feature you must leave them the freedom to do it wrong (depend…

Turning off Wifi is not something anyone - whether average or intermediate user - should be needing to do on a frequent basis. Airplane mode already takes care of the primary use case, namely disabling all radios. Someone intending to disable Wifi "temporarily" and then forgetting to re-enable it may wind up paying hundreds of dollars for cellular data. That goes against the "it just works" mentality, which is "Wifi…

No. Sometimes at work I don't want to use my employer's wifi. Sometimes I do.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by et-al »

potatolicious wrote: post #178
walterbell wrote: post #34

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Yikes, this is a security issue. Does airplane mode still turn off wifi and bluetooth?

Like others have brought up - it isn't a security issue. Since iOS 8 MAC addresses have been randomized until the phone connects to the AP. Your real MAC is not exposed to random listening APs nearby. It's been 3 years since your phone has been giving up its real identity while simply walking around. There may be good reason to want your WiFi radio off (battery?), but the cited privacy issue has been solved on iOS fo…

Unfortunately multiple people here, and study posted today[0], have pointed out that MAC address randomization in iOS is still flawed.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15287100

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by astrange »

walterbell wrote: post #108
kccqzy wrote: post #56

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You don't need managed devices. You just need to configure the VPN in the Configurator app and push a profile to your device. Though there are still some manual plist editing required to get this working.

Always-on VPN is possible on non-Supervised devices? Would appreciate a pointer to the relevant XML tags. Is it selectable, e.g. can you have multiple VPN profiles and then toggle (in Settings) which profile is Always-On?

It's not possible, but you can use VPN on Demand and it should solve the work VPN problem.
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