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Twitter Suspends 300k Accounts Tied to Terrorism in 2017

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Re: Twitter Suspends 300k Accounts Tied to Terrorism in 2017

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Post by lawl »

Scirra_Tom wrote: post #5
lawl wrote: post #4

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Who defines what is considered terrorism and what isn't? Once censorship infrastruc…

So you're speaking out for the terrorists? I'm struggling to see the point of that quote.

Yes, I believe even terrorists should be able to say whatever they want.

I'd actually prefer them shitposting on twitter rather than killing people.

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Post by WillPostForFood »

Scirra_Tom wrote: post #5
lawl wrote: post #4

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Who defines what is considered terrorism and what isn't? Once censorship infrastruc…

So you're speaking out for the terrorists? I'm struggling to see the point of that quote.

Yes? Are you afraid they can defeat you with tweets? The risk of normalizing suppressing speech is greater than the risk of terrorism.

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Post by traitormonkey »

katastic wrote: post #3

I'm more interested in why it took them this long, while they're perfectly fine suspending accounts that are politically opposing to their worldview. How are political dissenters more dangerous than actual terrorists?

and by dissenters you mean you nazi redneck scum - well there is no difference.

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Post by virmundi »

lawl wrote: post #4

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Who defines what is considered terrorism and what isn't? Once censorship infrastruc…

Unfortunately, you'll see the American ideal of free speech quickly purged from the Internet as American companies shed their nationalism for profit. The EU does not hold speech as dear as the US.

As the EU gains more power, they'll pressure American firms to conform to their laws. Since the firms have EU headquarters, they will. If the American firms wore that mantle with pride (and paid the taxes that go with it), the EU could only ban them from having their sites accessible by EU citizens. Not even the EU would go so far as to do that. Sadly, Twitter et al traded their Constitution for coin.

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Post by josefresco »

lawl wrote: post #4

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Who defines what is considered terrorism and what isn't? Once censorship infrastruc…

Twitter is a business - they are not rounding people up for extermination. This is a poor, and hyperbolic comparison.

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Post by ringaroundthetx »

lawl wrote: post #4

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Who defines what is considered terrorism and what isn't? Once censorship infrastruc…

> Who defines what is considered terrorism and what isn't?

Whoever the regional / world power at the time is.

There were organizations on Britain's terror list that have been absorbed into the new country's defense forces gaining sovereign immunity and employing the same practices as before, and I'm not referring to the United States.

The goal of any terrorism is sovereign immunity. Its not the worst bet people have made.

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

mslate wrote: post #7
lawl wrote: post #4

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Who defines what is considered terrorism and what isn't? Once censorship infrastruc…

This is the most tone-deaf invocation of this quote I have heard in my life.

Agreed. You can try to equate Twitter with Nazi's for suspending accounts.

Or you completely flip the analogy and say that this is Twitter refusing to not speak out and do nothing, while the Nazi's are coming for people on Twitter.

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Post by hsod »

lawl wrote: post #4

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Who defines what is considered terrorism and what isn't? Once censorship infrastruc…

First they came for CP...

Then they came for doxxing...

Then they came for revenge porn...

Re: Twitter Suspends 300k Accounts Tied to Terrorism in 2017

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Post by volkk »

chrissnell wrote: post #10

I understand why Twitter might not want ISIS accounts on their service but from a national security standpoint, it seems better to have the communication happening on a U.S.-based service like Twitter than some darknet or crypto-centric app.

My guess is that the real comms already do happen outside of Twitter, and that Twitter is simply a recruitment platform/loudspeaker

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Post by koolba »

chrissnell wrote: post #10

I understand why Twitter might not want ISIS accounts on their service but from a national security standpoint, it seems better to have the communication happening on a U.S.-based service like Twitter than some darknet or crypto-centric app.

I think they do both. The Twitter piece is mainly propaganda to aid in radicalization and recruiting.
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