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Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by heartbreak »

Terretta wrote: post #57
darthbanane wrote: post #32

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You’re right it’s an excellent solution to that issue and sometimes it’s exactly what I want. I’m worried about the security aspect because a stock iphone is what you should get if you care about privacy and security yet the UI actively misleads you on the purpose of the toggle. If they wanted a disconnect button they could have designed a new icon for it. Maybe a toast so that people understand what just happened. I…

The most common use case is toggling WiFi to drop a bad connection, and then forgetting to turn it back on , costing you who knows how much in LTE data when you’re back at home thinking you’re on WiFi. This UX change is like cash money to most users.

Although they did the exact same change for the Bluetooth toggle in the Control Center, and that one has less of a financial benefit.

I don't mind the change, but I do wish that the force touch "pop" menu toggles would completely turn off those radios instead of simply disconnecting.

For those who haven't used iOS 11, you can force touch the Control Center icons to pop in a full menu with additional toggles.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

_jal wrote: post #87
darthbanane wrote: post #8

Review is not thorough. One huge change in the control center is that the wifi “toggle” doesn’t toggle wifi off anymore (wait what?). It just disconnects from the current network and doesn’t reconnect for a minute or so. If you don’t want to be tracked by wifi APs it seems you have to force touch settings into wifi and disable the adapter from there. Huge step backwards IMHO.

Oh, that's really annoying. I turn wifi off when I leave home. More and more things are pushing me to one of the fringe-phone platforms. Which is too bad - I otherwise really like the iPhone.

But, it's only one extra motion to force click settings, select wifi and toggle wifi off vs swipe up to control panel and click the wifi.

I like the new wifi toggle because iPhones are AP sticky usually.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

masklinn wrote: post #67
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #61

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> the problem is that you can't play phone games from 2009 on your 2013~2016 iPhone Devil's advocate: you don't have to install iOS 11 on your four-year-old iPhone.

> Devil's advocate: you don't have to install iOS 11 on your four-year-old iPhone. That is in fact my plan, but is nonetheless frustrating.

The typical lifetime of an iPhone is so short, I can imagine that Apple will one day save themselves a lot of pain and cost and just limit each iOS release to a single phone / ipad release.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by sgift »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #63
sgift wrote: post #58

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Your comment reminds me of a time when the same was said about Microsoft. It will be interesting to see when/if Apple falls the same way MS did.

I think Apple has a far greater advantage than MS did (if not quite the marketshare, although the markets are different). MS was never seen as 'cool' or an aspirational status symbol like Apple products are.

Fair point. I always thought that was mainly due to Steve Jobs, but so far it looks like they're able to stay one without him.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by huxley »

pjc50 wrote: post #59
masklinn wrote: post #4

> Practically speaking, do I need to be able to play phone games from 2009 on my 2017 iPhone? Not really. The problem is not that you can't play phone games from 2009 on your 2017 iPhone, tying 32b deprecation to a hardware revision would actually have been nice (regardless of the hardware still being able to run in 32b mode). But that's not what's happening, the problem is that you can't play phone games from 2009 o…

Occasionally there are some apps which aren't games: https://www.f150forum.com/f118/ford-abandoning-remote-access... "good luck unlocking your car with abandonware lol" https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/91013013057141964... Sure, this is Ford's fault in this case, but it means that anything which has a tie-in iOS app needs to either budget for or bill for ongoing updates to make sure it keeps working.

It's going to be more than an annoyance in some case, but IMO, anything that has processor and access to the internet already needs to budget for ongoing updates to make sure it is secure.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by discreditable »

jakelazaroff wrote: post #42
JBReefer wrote: post #31

The new default image/video codec that no other browser supports seems like it's going to be ... interesting. Of course they couldn't use VP9, just like USB-C - this is marginally better, and completely fucks over everyone developing outside the tiny Apple ecosystem.

It's for the camera, not the browser, and it looks like you can change back to h.264 and JPG [1]: > If you’re currently running iOS 11 beta 1, you can verify this by switching between the High Efficiency and Most Compatible formats under iOS Settings → Camera → Formats. Under the High Efficiency format, images will be saved as HEIC and movies as an HEVC .mov file. Under Most Compatible, images will be saved as JPGs a…

It seems unfortunate that photos shared from iOS will be subject to an extra step of lossy compression in order to go to JPG.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by fasquoika »

sgift wrote: post #58
013a wrote: post #43

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I find it hilarious that every time Apple does anything like this, people complain and Apple still sets record sales. You're fundamentally wrong and Apple knows it. They can rip the headphone jack out. They can deprecate 32 bit apps. They can remove TouchID. They can block installing third party apps. Keep complaining; neither they nor their customers care.

Your comment reminds me of a time when the same was said about Microsoft. It will be interesting to see when/if Apple falls the same way MS did.

>if Apple falls the same way MS did

Are we thinking of the same MS?

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by walterbell »

kccqzy wrote: post #56
walterbell wrote: post #29

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Which VPN provider or enterprise gateway? Does your VPN Profile have an "Always-On" setting? That's only available on managed devices and it ensures that no traffic is passed unless the device is connected to a VPN, which is what causes the VPN to automatically reconnect. If you have a standalone VPN app, it may also reconnect silently. But the system VPN does not stay reliably connected across device sleep and netwo…

You don't need managed devices. You just need to configure the VPN in the Configurator app and push a profile to your device. Though there are still some manual plist editing required to get this working.

Always-on VPN is possible on non-Supervised devices? Would appreciate a pointer to the relevant XML tags. Is it selectable, e.g. can you have multiple VPN profiles and then toggle (in Settings) which profile is Always-On?

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by softawre »

joshuas wrote: post #99
smitherfield wrote: post #92

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The arbitrary removal of 32-bit app support could be thought of as a heuristic to clear away abandonware. Which, for obvious reasons (security), Apple would like to have as little of in its App Store as possible. It also lets them aggressively deprecate and remove legacy APIs going forward.

You know. It just occurred due to me, due to your post, how convenient it must be to have every app using your APIs in one place like the app store.

Yeah lockin has huge advantages for the company.

Re: iOS 11 reviewed

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Post by kbenson »

misnome wrote: post #94
_ph_ wrote: post #23

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I have a ton of apps no longer supported on iOS 11. They come in 2 main groups: - apps which were abandoned - apps which were replaced by a successor. In the absence of update fees, this is the easiest way to generate new revenue for continuous updates. I am happy to pay for app maintenance, but this scheme means, that there is no automatic data migration from the old to the new apps.

> apps which were replaced by a successor Hello, Omnigraffle. I bought this on iPad, used this something like, three times before having a need to use it over a year later and "Sorry! There is a new version to buy and your version is no longer supported, or runs!". It wasn't cheap, as apps go. Never, ever buying anything from Omni, ever again. Edit: To add details, I bought this for £35 on iOS 7. When iOS 8 came arou…

That seems wrong. I wonder if you could petition apple for a refund in the case where developers purposefully sunset an app purposefully but for no technical reason (which I understand isn't really what this thread about, nor may not match your situation entirely).
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